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Notgnawy
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 19
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:29 pm Post subject: GR mid-range |
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23 lands
4x Radha, Heir to Keld
4x Call of the Herd
4x Scryb Ranger
4x Sulfur Elemental
4x Spectral Force
2x Bogardan Hellkite
2x Timbermare
4x Search for Tomorrow
3x Stormbind
2x Stonewood Invocation
4x Sudden Shock (???)
there's probably something better to use than sudden shock here, since with stormbind it's redundant. The synergy between scryb ranger and radha is insane. not hard to go timbermare, untap radha, attack, stonewood invocation, or just attack with radha, untap with scryb, flash out hellkite
thoughts?
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acartizle
Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 53
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| i would play totems that don't die to damnation |
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R3wind
Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 927
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:50 am Post subject: |
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| Wearthseed is pretty good. I think that I would try 2-3 of them. |
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Notgnawy
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 19
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: |
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never thought about them yet, probably because i never saw one in a MTGO premier Top 8 They seem to be what this deck wants, so i'll try them out. |
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Oggrane
Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Posts: 24
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:21 am Post subject: RG |
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4x Desert
4x Fungal Reaches
7x Mountain
8x Forest
4x Radha, Heir to Keld
4x Call of the Herd
4x Scryb Ranger
4x Sulfur Elemental
4x Spectral Force
2x Timbermare
4x Search for Tomorrow
4x Stonewood Invocation
4x Fiery Temper
3X Groundbreaker |
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Notgnawy
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 19
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Oggrane's list is pretty good. I am not sold on Groundbreaker, but he seems reasonable. Stormbind is too awesome! It HAS to be in every GR deck that can reasonably use it. Remember there's no repeal in the format. what's Bx control gonna do against it?
Also, 4 Stonewood Invocation seems too much. Usually drawing 1 a game is good enough. |
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Oggrane
Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Posts: 24
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:55 am Post subject: Edit |
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4x Desert
4x Fungal Reaches
7x Mountain
8x Forest
4x Radha, Heir to Keld
4x Search for Tomorrow
4x Fiery Temper
4x Scryb Ranger
4x Sulfur Elemental
3x Spectral Force
3x Groundbreaker
3x Stormbind
3x Call of the Herd
3x Stonewood Invocation
2x Timbermare
A Small Edit.
I think Reckless Wurm is a powerhouse and might be nice with Stormbind, especially after attacking with Radha. |
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Notgnawy
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 19
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, my original deck idea was to use madness cards like Reckless Wurm and Fiery Temper. The draft included Greenseeker, lightning axe and Stormbind as discard outlets. Later on, i realized that i was playing underpowered cards that can sometimes generate tempo swing/card advantage, but weren't rly good cards per se... Both Reckless Wurm and Fiery Temper seems mediocre without madness, and with madness, they just sort of get you a bit of tempo, but nothing spectacular in the long run.
Also Included in the draft was Radha and Scryb & Force. after i understood their awesome synergies, i cut the madness cards and built a deck around Radha in general, but uses cards that are very good without her so the deck is still able to fonction without Radha. It's the list at the start of the thread  |
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pmoore311
Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 60
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:47 am Post subject: |
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Fatal Frenzy also has good synergy with this deck. Dropping groundbreaker or timbermare attacking with the either of the latter with Radha could casue some big damage if you cast fatal frenzy... I might even swap those instead of the stonewoods. Or maybe like 2 of each or something to that nature.
You could get a sick draw and do something like this...
T1 Land, suspend Search
T2 Land, Radha
T3 Land, Search Land Attack with Radha, Groundbreaker, cast Fatal Frenxy...take 14. |
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Notgnawy
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 19
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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| A few games with the deck including Groundbreaker shows me that the card is a bit of a stretch for the mana. only 8 forests, with 4 fungal reaches and Search for Tomorrow doesn't guarantee that you can play Groundbreaker reliably. Also, another green source of mana, Radha, is much better used to attack with Groundbreaker to make mana for spells like Fatal Frenzy and or Stonewood Invocation. So don't expect to have the attack with Groundbreaker and Radha, use pump spell scenario very often. |
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pmoore311
Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 60
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:40 am Post subject: |
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| Notgnawy wrote: | | A few games with the deck including Groundbreaker shows me that the card is a bit of a stretch for the mana. only 8 forests, with 4 fungal reaches and Search for Tomorrow doesn't guarantee that you can play Groundbreaker reliably. Also, another green source of mana, Radha, is much better used to attack with Groundbreaker to make mana for spells like Fatal Frenzy and or Stonewood Invocation. So don't expect to have the attack with Groundbreaker and Radha, use pump spell scenario very often. |
Fix your mana base and you could quite consistently. But I agree Groundbreaker isn't going to work. Frankly IMO I am no sold on the card at all...not in green at least. |
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killakiwi
Joined: 18 Dec 2004 Posts: 72
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Seems like Akroma Angel of Fury would be a good fit instead of hellkite. You can use Rahda to unmorph and pump her
I actually like the sudden shock, but maybe just cut it down to two. Run two totems insead
Looks fun, im going to go play it! |
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Notgnawy
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 19
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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Akroma's not as good as Radha because you can't get any effect out of that turn. Sure you unmorph her, but you have to wait to attack on the next turn. A wrath here would be pretty bad.
Working on a new decklist after testing tomorrow afternoon. |
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killakiwi
Joined: 18 Dec 2004 Posts: 72
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:58 am Post subject: |
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You can attack with the morph than use the mana to unmorph during the attack....
Turn 2 Rahda, Turn 3 Morph, Turn 4 attack and ummorph Akroma... Thats pretty strong.
Besides trying to force 8 mana out of this deck if you cant draw or keep rahda on the board will be pretty tough. Akroma can always be played as a cheap 2/2 and she only takes 6 mana to make into a Stick.
Basically hellkite doesnt belong, i ran about 10 games with this yesterday and only played it once.
The one thing i was always hoping for was more burn, maybe disintegrate or rift bolt. |
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Notgnawy
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 19
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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Ops, my bad. I missed the part where you attack with the morph. It does sounds really good then.
To my joy i found out in some games that this deck can be really explosive. We might have hit a potentially very powerful archtype.
The one thing i disliked though about the deck is that unless you have Stormbind, you're out of gas pretty fast. So I suggest Harmonize. |
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