UB Pickles / UB Control

CMA-Flippi · Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:46 am Post subject: UB Pickles / UB Control

Pickles

8 Island
4 Swamp
4 Desert
4 Terramorphic Expanse
3 Dreadship Reef
1 Urza's Factory

4 Vesuvan Shapeshifter
4 Fathom Seer
4 Willbender
1 Brine Elemental
1 Draining Whelk
1 Shaper Parasite
1 Body Double
4 Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir

4 Damnation
4 Prismatic Lens
3 Mystical Teachings
2 Cancel
2 Sudden Death
1 Wipe Away

Sideboard
4 Riptide Pilferer
1 Brine Elemental
1 Voidmage Prodigy

2 Serrated Arrows
2 Sudden Death
1 Trickbind
1 Extirpate
1 Pongify
1 Snapback
1 Imp's Mischief

The deck tries to get the opponent into a lock:
Vesuvan Shapeshifter + Brine Elemental
Thanks to the Mystical Teachings, it can play many Silver Bullets
Since Teferi is hyped alot in the Block Format, the deck plays 4 as it wants to advantage by its legendary status.

UB Control
played by sui_slush March 27 TSP Block Constructed MWS Trial

3 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Urza's Factory
5 Swamp
10 Island
4 Dreadship Reef
4 Terramorphic Expanse

2 Draining Whelk
1 Aeon Chronicler
4 Shadowmage Infiltrator
3 Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir

2 Tendrils of Corruption
2 Sudden Death
1 Extirpate
1 Haunting Hymn
4 Think Twice
4 Damnation
4 Mystical Teachings
1 Snapback
4 Cancel

Sideboard:
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
4 Riptide Pilferer
1 Draining Whelk
2 Tendrils of Corruption
2 Sudden Death
1 Aeon Chronicler
1 Extirpate
3 Premature Burial

Onkel420 · Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 144

I haven't played the deck, but Damnation in general and four especially seem kind of out of place for this deck.

And only two counterspells (despite the fact that you can tutor for them) seems sort of random.

But like I said, I haven't played the deck at all, so I may be all wrong. Smile

coolcreep · Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 264

Jankity Jank.

IshiIshi · Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 15

I don't really like the combo in the deck, your going to try and set up, and the removal that has been sitting in there hand due to your small amount of creatures is just going to ruin it.

If you want to run a combo, have it be one that just wins the game. Also you have a tutor for your over hyped blue man, there is a good number, you don't want multiples. You also run a bunch of random guys, play counterspells over them. And run think twice. Ill post my list later, cause I'm doing this from my phone, and typing out card names with predictive text would be hell. Lol.

thedarkness · Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 454

@ IshiIshi: First off, 20 creatures (1/3 of the deck) isn't quite a "small number." Second, maybe you missed what those creatures ARE. 4 Teferi, 4 Willbender, that pretty much compromises any removal, with counter backup no less. And a recurring hard lock DOES end the game, and since UB Pickles is a fairly good tier 1 deck in T2, I don't see why it's bad in a format where it only loses 2-3 cards.

@ coolcreep: as stated above, it's a tier 1 standard deck that doesn't lose much in the format switch. Posts like that should be banned from the forums. They add nothing to them.

@ Onkel420: I agree with you on both fronts. The deck ISN'T Dralnu by any stretch of the imagination; it's more tempo based than control based, so I really have no idea what kind of deck it is. But it's not your average cut and dry counter control deck. But yeah, I'd definitely run four cancels. Damnation would probably do well in the sideboard, replaced by some more spot removal.

@ Flippi: not a bad deck, and a good concept. Thanks for posting.

thedarkness · Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 454

And by the way, Onkel, in your sig...

It's "deep into THE darkness peering."

You're one sick fucker. -.-

BiscuitVader · Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 31

thedarkness · Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 454

I've got one problem with that deck.

IT'S NOT UB PICKLES. IT'S DRALNU DU LOUVRE.

Wrong topic.

So let's check the facts:
UB Pickles is a morph-based deck with a semi-aggro set of win conditions, based primarily on VESUVAN SHAPESHIFTER and turning Fathom Seer into a draw engine without mandating its being plyed face down. It runs 4-8 counterspells 99% of the time in standard, and 0-4 in block.

Dralnu du Louvre is a counter-based control deck relying primarily on Teferi and Mystical Teachings, with usually a single alternative win condition, ranging from skeletal vampire to, as we can see here, sengir nosferatu, depending on format. Dralnu doesn't like to play anything at sorcery speed, and basically wins at the end of the turn, though it technically kills during the attack step. With the loss of Repeal and its 2 slot countermagic, it becomes a much weaker deck.

THE DIFFERENCES:
UB Pickles is more aggro-tempo than Dralnu's straight-up control.
UB Pickles doesn't always run counterspells, and doesn't really need them if the player is good, while Dralnu needs a shitload of countermagic to WIN.
UB Pickles loses almost nothing switching from Standard to Block, while Dralnu loses about 1/3 of its cards, if not more.
UB Pickles is a MUCH cooler name than Dralnu du Louvre.

IN SUMMARY!

rhaze · Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 62

hey

just wanna ask u thedarkness hav u tested this deck extensively against the usual deck types for TSP Block? if yes can u pls explain abit about the various match-ups? sorry its just i havent had enough testing for TSP Block (none actually) and dont know what to play for the coming tourney. and back in t2 i play UB Pickles and UW tron with vesuvan shapeshifter + brine elemental lock so i guess i hav a soft spot for this deck. Very Happy

its just that i wanna know how it would fare against other decks b4 picking it up and playing it in a tourney (which, conveniently is 2moro... *sigh*)