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Extirpate maindeck or Sideboard ?



 
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Extirpate Maindeck or Sideboard
Maindeck
24%
 24%  [ 6 ]
Sideboard
76%
 76%  [ 19 ]
Total Votes : 25

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Magx



Joined: 07 Sep 2004
Posts: 339

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:54 pm    Post subject: Extirpate maindeck or Sideboard ? Reply with quote

After seeing a LOT of Extirpate maindeck,

I wanted to know what do YOU think ?

Does Extirapte belongs maindeck or is it a sideboard card
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TD



Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 103

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neither; it shouldn't be played at all in most decks. Maybe in vintage you could use it to hose MD ichorid, but...
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Onkel420



Joined: 23 Jan 2006
Posts: 144

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This topic has been thoroughly discussed before without much consent, but this is the first one with a poll - yey! Smile

I've had quite a few Extirpates played against me by now and none of them have done much. And by that I mean that I've never lost a game I was Extirpated in, but then again, I didn't play graveyard based decks - which the majority of the decks isn't. So sideboard, period.
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Berzerker



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Posts: 44

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

extripate is an amazing hoze for almost any deck, it combos amazingly with discard. Against blue decks 1 extripate gets rid of 3 counterspells (the first one was used, therefore in the graveyard). The fact that it is an instant and with split second makes it an extremely viable card.
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Russell_Nash



Joined: 05 Jan 2006
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Location: Burn Ward

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I was to play it I would probably play it in SB. As much as it rapes some decks, it hardly does anything to others. Granted some of the best matchups for it are control vs control.

I personally gear my control decks to maindeck well against control and sb for aggro(or combo or specific control decks) since they are usually your hardest/longest matchups and when your under time constraints you really need to win game 1 in control vs control because theres always the chance of not being able to finish game 2. When against aggro geared for control you tend to lose pretty quick but then you can SB fast and have much better odds the next 2 games.

With that being said I would still play Extirpate in SB because like I said in some matchups its essentially a dead card that doesn’t do much at all. I would just bring it in for specific matches in SB.

ALSO: It kinda depends on the deck im playing, but the general control decks that I would play with I would put it in SB.
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FiReBLT



Joined: 31 Dec 2004
Posts: 168

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is neither not an option?
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kilomitro



Joined: 25 Oct 2004
Posts: 158

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

idk why ppl think the card is good. its a reactive cranial extract, and even that card didnt see alot of play. being uncounterable and one mana is nice, but only as nice as their grave.
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SpareSocks



Joined: 24 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kilomitro wrote:
its a reactive cranial extract

cranial extraction is reactive also.
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Russell_Nash



Joined: 05 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kilomitro wrote:
idk why ppl think the card is good. its a reactive cranial extract, and even that card didnt see alot of play. being uncounterable and one mana is nice, but only as nice as their grave.


I think your short changing cranial extraction a good bit. That card was nutz in t2 when it was around and it basically defined block. How many times was cranial cranialed @ at kami block constructed tournies? Answer: every time it was possible.

Granted this card is a bit less powerful then cranial extraction in t2 but but its still pretty good in a bunch of matchups.

SpareSocks wrote:
cranial extraction is reactive also.


Not really. If you know they are playing a card, you name it and its gone. Removing a card from the game before your opponent gets a chance to even hold it in hand is a pretty proactive solution imo. Granted if you don’t know they are playing a card I guess you have to at least see it....so I guess its reactive then, in the sense that you must have the knoweledge of the card being in their deck.
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Magx



Joined: 07 Sep 2004
Posts: 339

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FiReBLT wrote:
Why is neither not an option?


because the question is " maindeck or sideboard" ( obviously IF you running it)
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NahHolmes



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 588

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kilomitro wrote:
idk why ppl think the card is good. its a reactive cranial extract, and even that card didnt see alot of play. being uncounterable and one mana is nice, but only as nice as their grave.

Cranial Extraction was an extremely popular card that saw plenty of play, anyone who has ever Cranial Extractioned naming Cranial Extraction can tell you that.
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TD



Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 103

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NahHolmes wrote:
kilomitro wrote:
idk why ppl think the card is good. its a reactive cranial extract, and even that card didnt see alot of play. being uncounterable and one mana is nice, but only as nice as their grave.

Cranial Extraction was an extremely popular card that saw plenty of play, anyone who has ever Cranial Extractioned naming Cranial Extraction can tell you that.


Cranial Extraction was popular, but the card was only really useful against a handful of decks outside of the recursion loop used by some Gifts deck. However, Gifts Ungiven was also considerably more powerful than this for a variety of reasons:

1) It was much more likely to hit a card in their hand; you were much more likely to hit a copy they had in hand, and you could proactively choose to cranial for a card they had just tutored for or which you had otherwise seen in their hand. You seldom have that option with extirpate.
2) It allowed you to take out cards proactively - cranialling a combo deck before they went off meant you could take out a critial piece of the combo and slow them down, or you could take out the card which could impact your current board position.
3) It was much more efficient - if it is in their graveyard, it is taking you -two- cards to get rid of all the copies, whereas Cranial Extraction only takes one
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