ub balance - tog (test me!! rate me!!! suggestions!!!!)

toguppy · Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 247

ok basically i am after help in tweaking this deck a little more. i have found that vs boros usually counterbalance + zombie infestation is game. vs giftsrock if u get a counterbalance up u can counter all their relevant spells and of course i am loving the trinket mage engine as it allows me to search up the pithing needle to stop alot of dif things in ext. now darkwithering is one of my trials and so far its going great!! i recomend u try it out. and of course the jittes have an almost endless supply of zombies. whats not to love!

i havent been fortunate enough to play vs ug in any form as of yet so if any1 feels the need to test the deck and they play vs ug i would love some reports on teh games if possible. the mirror match is generally 50/50 allthough plain and simply the zombie infestation turn 1 generally wins it if they dont have any bounce in sb to tutor up.

any suggestions i will take seriously however if yah just flaming i suggest U go elsewhere cause this is for serious playtestiong and not serious netdecking Twisted Evil

// Lands
4 [ON] Polluted Delta
4 [RAV] Watery Grave
2 [9E] Underground River
6 [IN] Island (2)
1 [MR] Seat of the Synod
1 [CHK] Swamp (1)
1 [TSP] Academy Ruins
1 [SOK] Oboro, Palace in the Clouds

// Creatures
3 [FD] Trinket Mage
3 [OD] Psychatog
4 [RAV] Dark Confidant

// Spells
1 [TSP] Dark Withering
2 [JU] Cunning Wish
4 [CS] Counterbalance
4 [7E] Counterspell
2 [BOK] Umezawa's Jitte
2 [OD] Zombie Infestation
3 [RAV] Remand
2 [ON] Smother
3 [7E] Force Spike
3 [CHK] Sensei's Divining Top
1 [SOK] Pithing Needle
3 [MR] Chrome Mox

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [TSP] Dark Withering
SB: 1 [ON] Smother
SB: 2 [PC] Extirpate
SB: 1 [RAV] Darkblast
SB: 3 [SC] Stifle
SB: 1 [FD] Engineered Explosives
SB: 1 [TSB] Tormod's Crypt
SB: 2 [FD] Vedalken Shackles
SB: 1 [CS] Commandeer
SB: 1 [IN] Fact or Fiction
SB: 1 [RAV] Shred Memory

CMA-Flippi · Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 330 Location: Weiterstad

The old Psychatog deck was based on carddraw, but your deck contains not any carddraw spells (well, except these Wishes).

I think you can drop the Confidants and Jittes for Thirst for Knowledges or other Instant draws.
Confidant in this deck dies too early so it won't create card advantage.

Having dropped the Confidants, the full pack of Divining Tops might also not be necessary anymore so probably switch one of them with the strong Spell Snare !

Also, you can have a Ghastly Remains instead of that Dark Withering.
It has almost the same effect except that you can also play it normally.!

Russell_Nash · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 694 Location: Burn Ward

cut jitte. tog wins in 1 big hit, jitte is unnecessary.

cut Zombie Infestation. 2/2s wont do you too much, plus you don’t have much of a madness theme so not much of an advantage to having a discard engine.

Cut Dark Withering: smohter/Ghastly Demise are generally better.

I’d also cut moxes for lands like stalking stones or artifact lands for Thirst for Knowledge.

I’d also squeeze in more counter spells/card drawing where ever you could.

IberianWolf · Joined: 17 Nov 2006 Posts: 78

force spike? cut it. no circular logic or mana leak? no upheaval? no mental note?

nah, to be honest i don't know much about 'tog decks, though this one seems to need a lot of work.

oh yeah, a psychotic fury. (psychatog with double strike? hoorray!)

Peter_Akeley · Joined: 30 Aug 2006 Posts: 4

jitte should go you only have like 8 guys so cut them. Predict is sick nasty card draw in the deck thinks me. i think the curve is good for the counter curve.