No-Stick

Gerrardfo · Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 321

1 Academy Ruins
1 Minamo, School at Water's Edge
3 Adarkar Wastes
3 Seat of the Synod
2 Steam Vents
2 Hallowed Fountain
2 Island
2 Plains
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Shivan Reef
1 Ancient Den
4 Flooded Strand
1 Exalted Angel
3 Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
4 Spell Snare
2 Force Spike
4 Isochron Scepter
4 Fire // Ice
3 Orim's Chant
4 Counterspell
3 Cunning Wish
4 Thirst for Knowledge
2 Fact or Fiction
3 Chrome Mox
//Sideboard:
SB: 1 Fact or Fiction
SB: 1 Orim's Chant
SB: 1 Muddle the Mixture
SB: 1 Condemn
SB: 1 Disenchant
SB: 1 Lightning Helix
SB: 1 Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
SB: 3 Gigadrowse
SB: 1 Stifle
SB: 2 Wrath of God
SB: 1 Pulse of the Fields
SB: 1 Echoing Truth

No-Stick, as played by Roel van Heeswijk. How could the deck/sideboard be changed? How could the matchups be improved? Discuss!

Quantumdemon · Joined: 06 May 2006 Posts: 56

First and obvious is sideboard, trickbind>stifle.

Spell snare 4x seems a bit much, I'd prefer 3.

I dont think Minamo is necessary, I'd rather have 1x gemstone caverns. Doesnt tap for blue unless you're going second, but how sweet is it to force spike a savannah lion when you're going second? Or at the very least, have it be a Seat of Synod.

Which brings me to my final point, Kataki>Gigadrowse, I cant really think of what that's any good for besides resolving a scepter vs. other control decks, but this deck rolls over and dies to any affinity draw that's half decent. It's slow.

That's all from me Smile

Fishy · Joined: 25 Dec 2004 Posts: 1

I think 4 descendant of kiyomaro is better than 3 gigadrowse and 1 teferi in sb. 4 teferi is too much for a deck for an agroo metagame.

Cla89ITA · Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 4

1) IMHO Wrat of god MD is necessary in this metagame fool of aggro decks (first of all Boros deck wins and Affinity), and with this deck the only one way to win agaist these tier 1 decks is having isochron scepter + orim's chant 2nd turn...

2) sideboard IMHO is too wish dipendent, there are many cards, first of all gigadrowse and condemn (better wing shard), i think that wishboard should be made with not more than 7-8 cards; then 1+2X of Disenchant or 1 Dismantling Blow + 2 disenchant are necessary in this metagame (against each deck, against boros deck wins too,,,) ; against UW tron,maybe the tier 1 of extended,but also against balancing, TEPS and tooth and nail Dwarven Blistminer is necessary in 4X......

cla Very Happy

seb_ · Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 53

have you ever played scepter chant seriously?

The Minamo is fine, but yes i would cut some other land for one gemstone caverns still keeping the 23 lands 3 mox setup.

wrath of god isnt necessary md since you win against almost all beatdown decks g1 because they dont have a solution to a szepter with chant, and the control matchup is even without a blank like wog still had enough.

The 4th teferi comes in against control so he has nothing to do with a aggro meta but i also dont have a 4th in the sb.

[someone wrote:
Which brings me to my final point, Kataki>Gigadrowse, I cant really think of what that's any good for besides resolving a scepter vs. other control decks, but this deck rolls over and dies to any affinity draw that's half decent. It's slow. ]

you win against affinity anyway in the majority of the games so no kataki, and ONLY resolving a szepter against control, you resolve the complete lock with it, and thats your only way to win since the tron decks have like the double amount of mana (which was always not the best in the control mirror^^)

I also like at least one dismantling blow in addition to the lone disenchant but there is no room because 4 Blastminers are really needed + all the improtant wish targets

Cla89ITA · Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 4

seb_ · Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 53

so we agree besides the first point, and as i said you dont need the wraths mb because even affinity decks dont have mb needles most of the time.

and sure i dont have scepter with chant on t2 all the time but in game1 its mostly enough, besides your opponent starts drawing ONLY instant burn (which is not pretty common since the current bdw build only has 4 helix 4 sudden shock here) and you drawing no counters or no wish for pulse and gg. so if i would play wrath i would only put him in the side board because i probably will win g1 against beatdown anyway. if you dont believe me just check karstens last article and look and the win percentages against beatdown.