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Kataki ability



 
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ViR[ITA]



Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Location: Italy - Co

PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:06 am    Post subject: Kataki ability Reply with quote

Hi guys, one question. if my oppo has kataki in play and i'm playing affinity. in my turn i untap, can i play a darkblast as a respo to the kataki ability? if he dies does his ability reamain on stack and resolves?
how can i stop it?
thankyou in advance
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Biorhythm



Joined: 23 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can stop it by playing eot darkblast/pyrite spellbomb abbility
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Haro



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Posts: 245

PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:25 am    Post subject: Re: Kataki ability Reply with quote

ViR[ITA] wrote:
Hi guys, one question. if my oppo has kataki in play and i'm playing affinity. in my turn i untap, can i play a darkblast as a respo to the kataki ability? if he dies does his ability reamain on stack and resolves?
how can i stop it?
thankyou in advance


If you do it at upkeep, you still have to pay 1 to everything. Stifling will only prevent 1 artifact payment. Only way not to get owned is to kill it and eot.
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ViR[ITA]



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Location: Italy - Co

PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Biorhythm wrote:
you can stop it by playing eot darkblast/pyrite spellbomb abbility

yep sorry if i haven't told it before, btw i mean if in his turn i'm without mana.

haro, also with trickbind or it works?
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Haro



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ViR[ITA] wrote:

haro, also with trickbind or it works?


Trickbind and stifle would do the same thing, counter 1 of the abilities.
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Thorns



Joined: 16 Aug 2006
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Location: Rath

PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haro wrote:
ViR[ITA] wrote:

haro, also with trickbind or it works?


Trickbind and stifle would do the same thing, counter 1 of the abilities.

The reason for this is that Kataki gives the tax ability to all artifacts, therefore you can't (well you can but with no effect) target Kataki with Stifle/Trickbind because it is continuous, whereas the ability he transfers is triggered.
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LoneWulf



Joined: 02 Sep 2004
Posts: 155

PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually you won't be able to use artifact lands for mana until you've paid the upkeep for them with non artifact mana. basically anything with an upkeep requirement can't be used until the upkeep has been paid for it.
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Ronnan



Joined: 08 May 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LoneWulf wrote:
actually you won't be able to use artifact lands for mana until you've paid the upkeep for them with non artifact mana. basically anything with an upkeep requirement can't be used until the upkeep has been paid for it.


NO

you can use the lands as usual
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WiCkEdWiZaRd



Joined: 06 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:19 am    Post subject: Re: Kataki ability Reply with quote

ViR[ITA] wrote:
how can i stop it?

Not play affinity obv
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ViR[ITA]



Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Location: Italy - Co

PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:19 am    Post subject: Re: Kataki ability Reply with quote

WiCkEdWiZaRd wrote:
ViR[ITA] wrote:
how can i stop it?

Not play affinity obv

ohh really thankyou Rolling Eyes
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TheDarkMan



Joined: 24 Sep 2004
Posts: 21

PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kataki gives all your artifacts a triggered ability. So before you have a chance to Darkblast or Spellbomb him, each ability is put on the stack, meaning even if you kill Kataki you still have to pay for each artifact you want to keep. If you kill him at eot, your artifacts don't have the triggered ability and so you don't have to sac them.

Since it's a triggered ability you can respond to it by using your artifact lands. There is no reason why you cannot use them if your opponent has Kataki.
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LoneWulf



Joined: 02 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From StarCity:
Under previous rules editions, you couldn't use a permanent until you had paid its upkeep cost. Under the current rules, which were handed down to Paul Barclay on Mt. Phyrexia, you put the beginning-of-upkeep triggers on the stack, and then the active player gets priority (303.1).

I was still thinking of the old rules when I posted earlier about having to pay costs before being able to use the upkeep affected permanent. My bad for being so out of time.
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