Tooth N Nail Version 1

Jacois · Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 456

Jheezy = not correct

1 reliable win condition with added support is better then 8 win conditions randomly thrown about. You suck.

jheezy · Joined: 30 May 2006 Posts: 167

Squirrel88 · Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Posts: 25

i have actually tested both the clodpost tooth and tron tooth and i must honestly say that tron is the better choice as for the wish cards i really don't know, i don't play with either and i find it to work pretty well.

Eldar · Joined: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 350 Location: Rochester

Don't play colossus it isn't as good as titan is. Titan is so much better in every way and he blows up lands to give you tempo. Also some considerations other than hussar may be such things as living hive to get you tokens when he deals damage, symbiotic wurm when the token dies you get insect tokens, penumbra wurm to get you a permanent 6/6 black trampling wurm when the token dies

Living wish is great to get missing tron pieces and allows you to run more green main deck or hussar lands so you could hard cast if need be and you are playing STE its very easy to get them. Also tron tooth is just better anyway because the lands don't come into play tapped they allow you to be faster. Another thing is run the trisk vamp combo sideboard it really is a waste of space in the main deck. You should be running a genesis in here for sure also he is a must. Also please it is a must to run 3 witness main and 1 board (for living wish) the card is that good. Vine trellis should be wall of roots, up it to 4 elder, take out colossus he sucks compared to other win conditions. Total for basic lands you should add at least 1 mountain, 1 plains, and 1 island simply so you can hard cast kiki with just lands as well as hussar. I would probably cut a mindslaver it is that good but 3 is too many. Main deck plow under. Tempo is critical to you winning and the card helps so so so much. Board one of each tron piece, 1 boseiju, 1 blinkmoth well for lands. If you are expecting a heavy metagame of deadguy I highly suggest you don't play this deck because it will get wrecked. If you expect a lot of goblins board a pyromancer for living wish target. You probably want to board a hierarch for life madness with kiki as well as regeneration.

Just so you know last year myself and another played this in a couple PTQs and finished 4-3 and 5-2 with it so it can be played however no it may be harder with the current meta. If you have any more questions feel free to PM me.

snoopster · Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 716 Location: nj

Eldar · Joined: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 350 Location: Rochester

Well t&n just took 2nd at PTQ Philadelphia. Here's the list:

Artifacts
4 Sensei's Divining Top

Artifact Creatures
1 Sundering Titan
1 Triskelion

Creatures
3 Eternal Witness
1 Mephidross Vampire
4 Sakura-tribe Elder
1 Sky Hussar
4 Wall Of Roots

Instants
3 Moment's Peace

Legendary Artifacts
2 Mindslaver

Legendary Creatures
1 Kiki-jiki, Mirror Breaker

Sorceries
4 Reap And Sow
4 Sylvan Scrying
4 Tooth And Nail

Basic Lands
5 Forest

Lands
1 Temple Garden
1 Tranquil Thicket
4 Urza's Mine
4 Urza's Power Plant
4 Urza's Tower
2 Windswept Heath
2 Wooded Foothills

Sideboard:
1 Sundering Titan
3 Gilded Light
1 Krosan Grip
1 Moment's Peace
1 Naturalize
1 Oxidize
1 Mindslaver
1 Kataki, War's Wage
3 Plow Under
1 Blinkmoth Well
1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All

bstriant_gr · Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 10

I believe this list is the best currently.
Eldar, Living wish is bad IMHO for 3 reasons:
1)You dedicate 3 cards of your board for Tron pieces and tooth's board is pretty tight.
2)It slows you down. Ideally Tooth goes Forest,Top / Piece 1,wall / Piece 2,Reap and Sow 4 Piece 3/ Tooth. It is very hard to have this with wish.
3)You can't play the deck like a toolbox or like the old enchantress...you need to dig for your combo.You should focus on your big spells 100% rather than going for recursion with Genesis.

Saying that, people would say that Living wish fetches Boseiju but the point is against counters you need to resolve it.The choice is it's either MD or SB, depending on the format.Blinkmoth well is an excellent addition as NoStick wrecks you.
So, aznjdude2006 i beleive you need to take this list and test it a lot, maybe tune it for your own metagame.
You also don't really need 1 kataki to nail Affinity. It's either 3-4 of them or none at all. If you resolve tooth and get Meph&Trisk it's usually over and u have moment's peace to keep you going...

Hell after all this I am thinking of going with it myself to the PTQ... if something bizarre happens and Flow stops showing up that is Razz