Boros Deck Wins: Extended

NWade · Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 81

Everyone is familiar with Boros Deck Wins, and I would like my deck to be critiqued:

BOROS DECK WINS- MAIN DECK

4x Isamaru, Hound of Konda
4x Savannah Lions
4x Grim Lavamancer
4x Goblin Legionnaire
4x Silver Knight

4x Lightning Helix
4x Lava Dart
4x Sudden Shock
4x Molten Rain
3x Firebolt

4x Sacred Foundry
1x Eiganjo Castle
2x Barbarian Ring
3x Wooded Foothills
3x Bloodstained Mire
3x Flooded Strand
1x Plains
4x Mountain

I will post a sideboard soon. Right now, I want to discuss and hear some feedback on a card choice and if there is a better one.
Lava Dart: I feel this card is very strong against aggro matches because of the important 1 toughness creatures in the format. Grim Lavamancer, Arcbound Ravager, Birds of Paradise, and Dark Confidant all die, and Lava Dart is ready to kill a second one. However, against control matches, there are no creatures to snipe, and paying R+Mountain to shock someone is lackluster.
Do I keep it?

Eldar · Joined: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 341 Location: Rochester

If you are going to run an eiganjo castle why not run a shinka for isamaru. Other than that I don't know your feelings on pulse of the forge but some lists run it for the recurring burn and maybe add another barbarian ring to help whittle your life down more as well as late game having more burn in the deck.

aldaryn · Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 439

i've been playing this deck for extended too and I'm torn between the zillions of available burn spells or how much LD focus (could add Pillage) maindeck.

I think Lava Dart is not worth it, but I haven't tested it much. Against control you want one of the 3cc 4-dmg spells, I think - either Char, Pulse, or Flames of the Blood Hand...

I don't know what's gonna happen in the rest of TS block, but 10th is gonna make this deck even better with Mogg Fanatic and Incinerate...hooray!

NWade · Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 81

BOROS DECK WINS - Main Deck

4x Isamaru, Hound of Konda
4x Savannah Lions
4x Grim Lavamancer
4x Goblin Legionnaire
4x Silver Knight
4x Firebolt
4x Lightning Helix
4x Sudden Shock
4x Molten Rain
3x Char

4x Sacred Foundry
3x Flooded Strand
3x Bloodstained Mire
3x Wooded Foothills
3x Mountain
2x Barbarian Ring
1x Eiganjo Castle
1x Shinka, the Bloodsoaked Keep
1x Plains

I decided to take the Lava Darts out. I think the addition of Char will enable me to punch more damage through and clear Loxodon Hierarchs and Myr Enforcers out of my way.
As for a sideboard, I only have part. I would like to know of a good solid sideboard that will give me options.

SIDEBOARD
3x Kataki, War's Wage
4x Pithing Needle
3x Umezawa's Jitte

HPempire · Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 113

kataki should be MD

perokeay · Joined: 31 May 2006 Posts: 1

Just 2 comments:

1st Lava dart is a "must be in" card. You might decide between Firebolt or sudden shock.

2nd Shinka and Eiganjo castle were in ONLY for the Isamarus. The idea of using them in every deck that could use a basic land is not correct nowadays in extended, cause many decks have hosers agains nonbasic-lands.

Eldar · Joined: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 341 Location: Rochester

If I remember correctly kataki is a legend too pal thats 6-7 guys that can use it and in my book that is well worth it to chance getting the first strike/prevent 2 lands in the deck.

NWade · Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 81

The only problem that I have with Kataki is that she is so lackluster in a lot of matchups. She is truly worse than a bear in most matchups, and in a deck that wins with burn and fast efficient creatures, I don't believe I can afford to play an almost always sub-par creature. Is Kataki truly worth a MD slot?

Also, I will play with sudden shock because it hoses everything in this format.

Eldar · Joined: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 341 Location: Rochester

Yeah kataki is really worth the MD slot seeing as against control it makes them pay for signets every upkeep as well as any of the odd chance artifact lands and against agro decks you love to see them keep their needles/jittes/swords alive only if they pay mana every turn for them. Kataki is very good in this MD slot because he tends to eat a kill spell above most other creatures if the opponent is playing artifacts.

NWade · Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 81

I never thought of it that way. I'll try the card out a little more. Would you guys offer any suggestions to this new decklist?

BOROS DECK WINS

4x Grim Lavamancer
4x Savannah Lions
4x Isamaru, Hound of Konda
4x Goblin Legionnaire
4x Silver Knight
3x Kataki, War's Wage
4x Lava Dart
4x Lightning Helix
4x Sudden Shock
4x Molten Rain
4x Sacred Foundry
4x Mountain
3x Wooded Foothills
3x Bloodstained Mire
3x Windswept Heath
2x Barbarian Ring
1x Eiganjo Castle
1x Plains

For the sideboard, I would like to discuss the matchups and what I should consider for a sideboard. For the mirror, I want to bring in Umezawa's Jitte, which has always wrecked aggro, and pyrite spellbomb to answer silver knight. What do you think of those choices?

Eldar · Joined: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 341 Location: Rochester

-1 mountain +1 shinka you are running 7 legendary creatures why not? Jitte is good in the board I don't know about spellbomb but if your meta is a LOT of boros then I guess it would be okay. Also if you are a lot of boros in your meta even this may sound odd but valor? he hoses all their creatures and allows any of your white weenies to trade with silver knights.

NWade · Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 81

BOROS DECK WINS

4x Grim Lavamancer
4x Savannah Lions
4x Isamaru, Hound of Konda
4x Goblin Legionnaire
4x Silver Knight
3x Kataki, War's Wage
4x Lava Dart
4x Lightning Helix
4x Sudden Shock
4x Molten Rain
4x Sacred Foundry
3x Mountain
3x Wooded Foothills
3x Bloodstained Mire
3x Windswept Heath
2x Barbarian Ring
1x Eiganjo Castle
1x Shinka, the Bloodsoaked Keep
1x Plains

I made the change. What I would like out of my sideboard is an answer to the mirror. In my opinion, I think the most powerful cards in the mirror are pro red guys. My plan is to side in 4 Soltari Priest, 3 Umezawa's Jitte so that I will have 8 Indestructible Jitte carriers in my deck after boards. What I will board out are 3 Kataki, and 4 Molten Rains. The only issues I see is the amount of sideboard space I am devoting to the mirror and whether Molten Rain should stay in or not. Molten Rain often wins me games by screwing my opponent with a land light hand, but it also ends up being a 3 mana shock to the dome just as often.

Eldar · Joined: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 341 Location: Rochester

The thing is jitte is good against a lot of decks and will be boarded in a lot and priest is hard to deal with for a lot of decks too so you shouldn't be that worried about it.

NWade · Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 81

BOROS DECK WINS

4x Grim Lavamancer
4x Savannah Lions
4x Isamaru, Hound of Konda
4x Goblin Legionnaire
4x Silver Knight
3x Kataki, War's Wage
4x Lava Dart
4x Lightning Helix
4x Sudden Shock
4x Molten Rain
4x Sacred Foundry
3x Mountain
3x Wooded Foothills
3x Bloodstained Mire
3x Windswept Heath
2x Barbarian Ring
1x Eiganjo Castle
1x Shinka, the Bloodsoaked Keep
1x Plains

SIDEBOARD:

3x Umezawa's Jitte
4x Soltari Priest
8x ???

My games against Boros and Affinity are solid. I would like to know what the best strategy against Azoritron is and what sideboard slots should be dedicated to them. In my meta, there are almost no decks to test aginst, so I am all ears.

goodrat · Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 12

Devoting 7 sb slots to the mirror if you're playing Boros is completely acceptable, since it stands a good chance of being your most common matchup. I would honestly consider making your maindeck better in the mirror somehow; given that you will be boarding against yourself so often, wouldn't it be a good plan to try and be the guy that wins game 1?

If you don't think Affinity will be heavily played in your meta, maybe 3 maindeck Kataki is wrong? Perhaps move a couple of them to the sideboard and cheat in a pair of Soltari Priests/Paladin en-Vec.

At any rate, I think you need some kind of enchantment hate sb. Disenchant, most likely, since it can come in against Affinity as well. Do people bring in Disenchants in the Boros mirror? If not, Worship could be purdy good...