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HelloMoto
Joined: 12 Jul 2006
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 Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:26 pm Post subject: akroma confusion |
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I play magic alot with a kid from my town who uses an akroma based deck and we seem to always have a conflict on what we think akromas protection really protects her from.
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I'm using a multi-player Bg golgari sacrifice deck with a savra+shambling shell field lockdown. he has his akroma out I sac my shell with savra in play and he says that he doesn't have to sacrifice his akroma due to the fact that it was a black ability that would make him sacrifice it. Akroma was his only creature.
who is right? please any help is greatly appreciated! |
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Acid_Christ
Joined: 28 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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The protection from black only:
Akroma can't be TARGETED by black spells or abilities.
All damage from black sources is reduced to zero.
Akroma can't be blocked by black creatures.
Savra's ability does not target the Akroma. It doesn't target anything. So if Akroma was his only creature, he would have to sacrifice it. |
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Laplie
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Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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You are correct.
Protection reduces damage to 0, prevents enchanting/equipping, blocking, and targetting.
Savra isn't doing any of those things.
Diabolic Edict gets around protection too. |
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HelloMoto
Joined: 12 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanx I thought I was right but I wasn't for 100% sure. |
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noobjom
Joined: 18 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| D.E.B.T destroy,enchant,block,target thats pretty much all protection is |
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therapist
Joined: 09 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Goji wrote: | | D.E.B.T destroy,enchant,block,target thats pretty much all protection is |
D D E B T
damage is always reduced to 0. 3 pyroclasms will do nothing to the angel. |
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aldaryn
Joined: 02 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| You should really call it DEBT and with one D and take out destroy. Pro-white does not protect from global destroy effects like Wrath of God...the other kind of destruction being damage or targeting both of which are covered in DEBT - damage, enchant, block, target. |
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sonicqaz
Joined: 02 May 2006
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| Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Goji wrote: | | D.E.B.T destroy,enchant,block,target thats pretty much all protection is |
Protection does not prevent destroy effects. |
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Vikeif
Joined: 23 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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| say protection works against spells that specifically target that creature |
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DS_McWerp
Joined: 15 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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| The D in the DEBT acronym stands for Damage. Destroy effects like wrath still hit pro white creatures, and plague wind will still hit akroma. |
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Martas
Joined: 25 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:17 am Post subject: |
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| therapist wrote: |
damage is always reduced to 0. 3 pyroclasms will do nothing to the angel. |
Never say "always" ... With resolved Flaring Pain 3 pyroclasms will kill Akroma.
Protection is not reducing damage but preventing ... rule 502.7e |
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