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MWS hacking



 
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Un4s



Joined: 05 Aug 2006
Posts: 6

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:22 am    Post subject: MWS hacking Reply with quote

Hi guys i would like to
know if there are known some kind of hacks for MWS, and possibly a way to detect them.
Thanks.
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Anubis_End



Joined: 27 Feb 2006
Posts: 61

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good coder would have no problem breaking MWS...although I am not sure what kind of authentication MWS uses. It is possible that the packets that the hacked MWS would send to your legit one could be detected as currupt but I'm not sure that it could detect some minor re-coding during the handshake.

I personally think it is possible to seriously tear apart MWS and change all the odds and what not, although probably somewhat easier in apprentice.

The real question is: why? We play on Magic-League to become more skilled and to keep pace with the ever changing formats. Even though you can win some small prizes, you still won't get better if every game you win is fixed.

So I guess this message goes to everyone who uses underhanded tactics to win matches...you're a fucking waste of oxygen. Stop trying to feel important and do what every other third-rate player on this site does...keep losing till ya win.

I've beaten Noremac once or twice. I even went toe-to-toe with Gerrardfo. I have won against them because I lose my ass off on more than one occasion and every loss was a lesson.


Sorry about that rant.

To give you a direct answer, it is definitely possible to hack MWS and it is unknown if you could detect it or not, depending on the skill level of the said hacker.
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Wiley



Joined: 28 Jul 2006
Posts: 136

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah and I've beaten bwing every time I've played him

Also, it's not hard to beat gerrardfo; just use caps until he explodes..
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ck3gds



Joined: 21 Jun 2005
Posts: 244

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm more interested in hacking the registration code for MWS... Twisted Evil
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sc4rs



Joined: 23 Mar 2006
Posts: 395

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ck3gds - go to hell.

Seriously, what Anubis said is perfectly true. These are completely free games with minimal, if any, prizes. The entire point of this site is to test for real tournaments, and this bullshit doesn't do anyone any good. You will be caught if you're using different decks during the master, regardless of if you have the right code or not, because you have to post your decklist in the top 8, which means you'd still have to win legitimately at least three times to get anything out of it. Just play like the rest of the people on this damn site.
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Addle



Joined: 15 Nov 2006
Posts: 25

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well there is some people who gauge their lives on how much they can win, or at least their actions dictate such a outlook,and its these types that cheat, which is sad. i mean if your making like 50k a year playing magic or something, then yeah its kinda important to you. just my worthless opinon
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nasa



Joined: 09 Sep 2004
Posts: 185

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

but you dont make 50K a year playing magic-league
this a place of practice, with like 30$ prizes ever 4 weeks or w/e
so a cheater on m-l is just ridiculous.
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KrAeCkEr



Joined: 03 Mar 2005
Posts: 23

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem with cheaters/hackers is that they probably care very slightly about what any1 else thinks besides themselves because they either have no life or otherwise. People who cheat are scum and have no real reason to do it other than to feel important so even the measly $30 they gain if not caught is merely a bonus to them.
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saysur



Joined: 02 Sep 2004
Posts: 18

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This topic has gone from a simple question to a rant and "flaming" on those who cheat.
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Fools



Joined: 30 Oct 2003
Posts: 104

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:00 pm    Post subject: uh Reply with quote

the reason why apprentice got hacked is because the people stopped working on it. mws is constantly being updated and stuff (not too recently i guess) so its harder to hack. thats what i was told a while ago and it does make some sense.

hope that helps.
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Craze



Joined: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 5380
Location: Indiana, U

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MWS has some anti hacks on it, But if your clever enough to get around them its virtually undectable and 10 times more faster and easier then Appr's cheating prog.


Not that I've done it or anything :-\
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Anubis_End



Joined: 27 Feb 2006
Posts: 61

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to make a point..hackers break things to make them better. Crackers break things to misuse them.

The hackers who notify a sysop of a major security flaw in his system and help him fix it....good.

The crackers who break into a net, thrash it and still valuable data...bad.

But the most important thing here we should be talking about is how to protect ourselves from people who don't want to play fair. Does anyone know how the security works and if there is another way to reauthenticate your game? Any other ideas?
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Addle



Joined: 15 Nov 2006
Posts: 25

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wouldnt itbe harder to exploit if your both connected to a server? im a n00b when it comes to security,but i know it is possible
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