The Rack and Bottled Cloister

Martas · Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 25

Hi judges,

one player on mws server told me I'm noob so I just want to be sure I'm not Smile

I had Rack and opponent had 2 Cloisters. I told him that in his upkeep he get 3 damages from Rack because it resolves before Cloisters trigger giving him back his cards. I forwarded him to APNAP rule saying that at the begining of upkeep first active player puts his triggers (cloisters) on stack and then non-active player (rack). Resolves in reverse order so first rack deals 3 damages and then he got cards from cloisters. Was I right or was his rude "noob" ok?

Thanks
Martas

Addle · Joined: 15 Nov 2006 Posts: 25

im no judge but your right, when triggered abilities trigger simultaniously on both sides, the active player always stacks his first and then so on..

KeySam · Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 533

I am also no judge but i am quite sure that your rack dont deal damage cause the order isnt reversed i guess.

sc4rs · Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 392

Addle is correct, KeySam is wrong. APNAP works exactly as you say it does - they both say "at the beginning of your (opponent's) upkeep," so his trigger first in whatever order he wants, then yours all trigger. This means that yours will resolve first, giving him 3 points of damage.

Onkel420 · Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 144

sc4rs and Addle are correct

Spyx · Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 835

Yeah they are correct. A similar thing happend to me where I had Dark Confidant and he had The Rack, and my hand was empty. Turned out I took 3 damage.