Hamachi vs Flips

_bouncyer_ · Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 135

IMO I hate flips. Hamachi should be required and can run on all computers. Nico please read this poll and please change our standing on requiring Hamachi.

EyeOfMadness · Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 89

Everybody hates flips. The problem is, some people are running of Windows 98, which Hamachi doesn't support.

I think the best thind to do is have both MWS and Hamachi, just in case you encounter one of these people, such as myself.

Quality_Bear · Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 123

To an extent I do agree with you, however... Sometimes even when players are connected over hamachi there are instances when both players are still unable to host. Although I do think everybody who is walled should by now have hamachi.

_bouncyer_ · Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 135

hawkeye1542 · Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 197

windows 98 does in fact support MWS (not sure about hamachi), regardless of what ignorant people say. If MWS doesn't run on your computer and you have windows 98 then you have some system problem causing this; the operating system itself can support MWS.

As for the league, only those using windows 95 or lower are truly incapable of running something other than apprentice. This cannot be a very large number of people (if any), and we should just tell them that if they want to participate they should upgrade their OS (you can buy used copies of 98 for like 10 bucks). The league would be much higher quality if flips were eliminated and an alternate play method were required.

EyeOfMadness · Joined: 12 Sep 2005 Posts: 89

I have MWS. I make sure I do, in case of instances suck as this. The problem is that people think Hamachi is the solution to all walled/router related problems. For the most part, it is. But there are those who cannot support the program. Simple as that.

Quality_Bear · Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 123

Yeah like dragon lady Sad

nico · Administrator Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 818

I have stated this before and will repeat it here
As long as hamachi cannot be run by at least 99% of our users, it will NEVER be mandatory. Also seeing that hamachi does have it's own problems, and still is in beta there is no reason to force people to use hamachi.

Greetz Nico

gumonshoe · Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 433

when i read the terms and agreements for workstation it said it wasnt free so i decided not to download it whats the deal with that?

ant900 · Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 2476 Location: somewhere

mws has a free version, and if you wanna get everything and get rid of the adds then you can pay 20 bucks and get the full version

LoneWulf · Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 148

the only time i cant host is when im wireless. i now have hamachi but have only used it once.
i do not like mws. ive been using apprentice for at least 4 years and dont want to have to learn how to operate a new program. i dont like that when you download it its just a shell of what you need. you still need all the peripheral downloads to get the complete card sets. with apprentice you get the full download minus a patch or two for the newest sets. with hamachi i still use apprentice. i just use a different way to connect.

Baryonyx · Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 1020 Location: Illinois

For those who cant have Hamachi cause the have windows 98, you have bigger problems than not being able to connect. You need to get a new comp. cause yours is sorley outdated. Sry

Chromatic · Joined: 30 Apr 2005 Posts: 22

A lot of people cant afford to get a new computer, let alone waste money on magic cards. Thats why they turn to a low req, free program like Apprentice.

Twist300 · Joined: 28 Aug 2005 Posts: 33

Yes, i simply ask that all people have it and use it, or have mws atleats, if neither option is available there is MTGO for you.[/quote]

The problem with MTGO is you have to pay to use it same with the good version of MSW. In my opinion all of us who can't host should just download HAMACHI. Its free, it only takes a couple mins and it's easy to use! Saves us all some time so we can play instead of waiting for a judge to flip for us to see who wins. There's no challenge for flipping, it's just merely luck!

hawkeye1542 · Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 197