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My Type 1.5 Turn 1 Win Condition



 
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Greenman1234



Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:44 pm    Post subject: My Type 1.5 Turn 1 Win Condition Reply with quote

I think In a 60 card deck theres .9375% chance of me hitting this on turn 1 but oh well here it is.

1-Play Dark Depths for your land

2-Play Lotus Petal

3-Sac Lotus Petal for R

4-Play Mass Hysteria with the R mana

5-Play another Lotus Petal

6-Sac Lotus Petal For B

7-Play Dark Ritual (Add BBB to your mana pool)

8-Use one of the Dark Ritual's B to play another (you ahve BBBBB in your mana pool.

9-Play Aether Snap

10-Swing for 20 in the air with your 20/20 token

See now theres a win. tell em what you think
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BurningStar4



Joined: 10 Mar 2005
Posts: 53

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And if you don'ty get a god hand?

If your opponent has Force of Will?

If your opponent lays a first turn Plains with a Swords to Plowshares in hand?



It is not a reliable combo. Neither of the 2 pieces work well without eachother. It won't work in Legacy, and the other combo decks are much better.
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scrivener



Joined: 15 Jan 2005
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah....too vulnerable to disruption.

Plus if they go first you have to worry about STP and stuff.
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tato-



Joined: 22 Oct 2005
Posts: 126
Location: Colombia

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greenman1234 wrote:
I think In a 60 card deck theres .9375% chance of me hitting this on turn 1 but oh well here it is.


.9375% thats why is crap...and thats why u're saying that...
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Amoeba-



Joined: 28 Apr 2006
Posts: 69

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahh...What if they play Wasteland.
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slava



Joined: 04 Jul 2006
Posts: 90
Location: israel, be

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you need in your hand:
Dark Depths
Lotus Petal X2
Mass Hysteria
Dark Ritual X2
Aether Snap
and how there is a big chance you get all these cards in turn 1?
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freddy



Joined: 15 May 2006
Posts: 180

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i believe they said it was a .9375% chance, I wouldnt call that a big chance.

yeah, so one in a hundred matches you get to do a little dance, assuming there is not disruption. If you were to rebuild to get a reliable turn 3 win, you might e better off.
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Laplie
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Joined: 31 Aug 2004
Posts: 533

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you really need mass hysteria? i know it enables the turn1 win, but it seems useless otherwise.
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Lackeos



Joined: 10 Oct 2004
Posts: 236

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

woot, about as gay as...

Mountain
Chrome Mox, imprint
Desparate Ritual
Seething Song
Seething Song
Goblin Charbelcher, activate. deal 20.
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NahHolmes



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 579

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously there are like a thousand Turn 1 wins in Legacy, why are you posting some imaginary turn 1 win. Nausea can goldfish on turn 1 about 10-20% of the time.
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slava



Joined: 04 Jul 2006
Posts: 90
Location: israel, be

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i did some analysis... i made a deck made from 4 of each of the cards +40 cards that dont matter. the MWS deep deck analysis told me that you have a 0% chance to draw this combo at the first turn. i removed hysterya and one Lotus Petal and still 0% chance...
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Vodka_drink



Joined: 13 Mar 2005
Posts: 1130
Location: Brampton O

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stay away from...boomerang and repeal...

Vodka
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freddy



Joined: 15 May 2006
Posts: 180

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slava wrote:
i did some analysis... i made a deck made from 4 of each of the cards +40 cards that dont matter. the MWS deep deck analysis told me that you have a 0% chance to draw this combo at the first turn. i removed hysterya and one Lotus Petal and still 0% chance...


well, maybe it just ignores the actual .93% or wahtever. I think no matter what the cards are if you choose just 7 cards you will have some percentage of getting the, in your oppening hand.

maybe the MWS thing isnt as good as people think it is.
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Vodka_drink



Joined: 13 Mar 2005
Posts: 1130
Location: Brampton O

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

once again...you get god draw i get boomerang..yay! i win ^_^

vodka
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djww19



Joined: 15 Mar 2005
Posts: 396

PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vodka_drink wrote:
once again...you get god draw i get boomerang..yay! i win ^_^

vodka


Not if all you have when he attacks next turn is 1 island because he played first...
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