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Trojan in Apprentice?!



 
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ryanchall



Joined: 13 Feb 2006
Posts: 3

PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:33 pm    Post subject: Trojan in Apprentice?! Reply with quote

I've been using appr for several years. Tonight I downloaded it on a PC w/ AOL. Promply after installing it I got a warning from the AOL anti-virus saying it had blocked a trojan. Is this a coincidence? Has anyone else experienced this?
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launamleto



Joined: 12 Jul 2006
Posts: 112

PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ml is obv trying to kill you...might be from the site...or a patch you downloaded with it? or maybe it reall does have one... i wouldnt doubt it
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TD



Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 103

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its possible. Its also possible that AOL's "trojan" reader is bad. I think that apprentice is programmed very poorly, hence why it can't get through firewalls and routers and the like. Most likely it is cludgy and it is because of this cludge that it is seen as a trojan.

Or it could be.

EDIT: It is also possible that by opening port 4747 you allowed malicious attackers into your system, and thus got the trojan because of an outside attack due to opening the port rather than due to apprentice itself.
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NahHolmes



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 588

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing you could do to your computer could be worse then installing AOL.
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launamleto



Joined: 12 Jul 2006
Posts: 112

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NahHolmes wrote:
Nothing you could do to your computer could be worse then installing AOL.


even thinking about it has been added to the list of sins in the bible.
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Dzy



Joined: 03 Sep 2004
Posts: 139

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AOL says enough... AMERICA on-line.
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Jorbes



Joined: 14 Feb 2006
Posts: 277
Location: Netherland

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TD wrote:
Its possible. Its also possible that AOL's "trojan" reader is bad. I think that apprentice is programmed very poorly, hence why it can't get through firewalls and routers and the like.


Actually, the poor code (wich i still have on my hard drive) has nothing to do with the firewall/router issues, that is all the TCP protocol('s "fault")

TD wrote:

EDIT: It is also possible that by opening port 4747 you allowed malicious attackers into your system, and thus got the trojan because of an outside attack due to opening the port rather than due to apprentice itself.


Very possible, though i know very little about hacking, I do know apprentice uses a very old (buggy?) version of Project Indy's TCPServer to accept incoming connections. In fact, it's insanely easy to write a TCP client that just logs onto a "hosting" apprentice (ip from irc or whatnot) and just spams a ****load of data to the server to crash the hosting players apprentice or maybe even computer.

But I wouldn't worry about that too much Wink
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andrew7913



Joined: 12 Jun 2005
Posts: 82

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

apprentice is infact a trojan since it is made to accese annother computer from a remote location using an open port ... which is exactly wat a trojan does
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freddy



Joined: 15 May 2006
Posts: 180

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aol kinda sucks, just ignore it.
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WildCard



Joined: 06 Sep 2004
Posts: 735
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrew7913 wrote:
apprentice is infact a trojan since it is made to accese annother computer from a remote location using an open port ... which is exactly wat a trojan does
so to get rid of the trojan is to delete apprentice?
heh...
Well if thats what apprentice is supposed to do then i say let it do it. There are prolly other programs like apprentice that do the same thing.
A Baby is a parasite... (however you spell it.) so we are all started off as.. n/m im keeping apprentice nothing is wrong with it.
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