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sergitknight
Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 211
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:54 am Post subject: critical mass update |
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new critical mass, testing it currently
creatures
4 coiling oracle
4 wood elves
4 llanowar elves
3 meloku
4 simic sky swallower
3 keiga, the tide star
spells
2 plaxmanta
3 sensei's divining top
4 umezawa's jitte
3 mana leak
4 voidslime
land
4 yavimaya coast
4 breeding pool
1 miren the moanig well
7 forest
6 island
side board
3 naturalize
3 threads of disloyalty
3 disrupting shoal
3 boomerang
3 spell snare
let me know if you have any suggestions |
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Enyeez
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 94
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 4:38 am Post subject: |
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hmm. I like the idea.. but.
4 simic sky swallower ? - is too many, but in my oppinion 1 is too many, it's hard to get rid of, but this is constructed.. and it cannot race a decent aggro deck.
furthermore - _I_ think you're playing too many creatures..
4 elves. will be dead cards after you've played successful elders, oracles, and wood elves. (I cannot play mass without elders)
100% I love the oracles, and the Elders.
2x4 of's
you're playing a creature deck, and perhaps that's not my thing, in YOUR deck, Plexmantas are decent, but since I'm cutting the skyswallowers, and elves. they are no good in mine.
I'm leaving out some wood elves aswell.
4 Jitte seems a bit much, again.. yours is waaay more creature based.
4 leaks, IMO.
4 Voidslime.
HINDER! - I love hinders.
also, I kinda liked the black splash for putrefy.
so...
4 Sakura-tribe Elder
3 Wood Elves
4 Coiling Oracle
4 Voidslime / Hinder (slime is prolly the better choice)
4 Mana Leak
3 Putrefy
3 Umezawa's Jitte
3 Sensei's Divining Top
2 Crime // Punishment (Destroy each artifact, creature and enchantment with converted mana cost X.)
2 Keiga, The Tide Star
3 Meloku The Clouded Mirror
1 Grave-shell Scarab
36 cards so far..
add one card. the last putrefy, jitte, or 1 sky swallower if you'd like
I know... you asked for suggestions, and I changed the entire thing..
sorry..
but I think that if I was to play Mass.. thats how I'd go.
<3
Enyeez |
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synch987
Joined: 31 Mar 2006 Posts: 256
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 5:47 am Post subject: |
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if i were you, i would drop 1 SSS and 1 meloku to start, drop a jitte, add a mana leak, drop llanowar elves and a couple of wood elves and have a full set of kudzus, run iwamori in the side also, i think you should go for lower cost counter spells with 4 leaks and 4 remands you get counter cover very quickly, and i dont think your deck could handle kird ape or isamaru early on.
repeals are worth a look, and STE is better than coiling oracle; its easier to cast, and can sac before damage to stop jitte counters or trample or whatever, plaxmantas are certainly very good for a surprise blocker or nullifying removal |
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Shagrath
Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 235
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| Synch- wrote: |
repeals are worth a look, and STE is better than coiling oracle; its easier to cast, and can sac before damage to stop jitte counters or trample or whatever, plaxmantas are certainly very good for a surprise blocker or nullifying removal |
Stop trample?! |
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synch987
Joined: 31 Mar 2006 Posts: 256
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 6:44 am Post subject: |
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| i did i not mention casting might of oaks first, im fairly sure i did..... |
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Shagrath
Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 235
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 7:53 am Post subject: .... |
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| Sacrifice of STE will not stop trample....duh |
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synch987
Joined: 31 Mar 2006 Posts: 256
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 9:35 am Post subject: |
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| explain the trail of logic whereby that is obvious |
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Craze
Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 5675 Location: Indiana, U
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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When STE blocks, you assign damage, this activates trample which says ok 1 damage goes to STE and the other X damage goes to the player. Before this damage resolves however, you sac STE. Damage resolves and that 1 fizzes. But since your still a target, the X damage hits you.
Trample > all |
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the_guy_123
Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 125 Location: Quebec
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Critical Mass is called Critical Mass because it plays Vinelasher Kudzu and Meloku the Clouded Mirror to make a HUGE plant with Illusions flying around it for suppport. However, Kudzu isn't on your list. |
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sergitknight
Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 211
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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i based my deck on the 2005 worlds critical mass
... and the plaxmanta, think of it as a counter spell like bathe in light |
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synch987
Joined: 31 Mar 2006 Posts: 256
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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//NAME: Untitled Deck
SB: 4 Remand
SB: 3 Iwamori of the Open Fist
SB: 3 Carven Caryatid
SB: 2 Plaxmanta
SB: 2 Naturalize
SB: 1 Repeal
2 Simic Sky Swallower
3 Keiga, the Tide Star
3 Meloku the Clouded Mirror
3 Voidslime
4 Coiling Oracle
4 Mana Leak
4 Vinelasher Kudzu
4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
3 Umezawa's Jitte
3 Repeal
3 Sensei's Divining Top
5 Island
5 Forest
4 Breeding Pool
4 Yavimaya Coast
2 Simic Growth Chamber
1 Oboro, Palace in the Clouds
1 Minamo, School at Water's E
1 Okina, Temple to the Grandf
1 Miren, the Moaning Well |
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the_guy_123
Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 125 Location: Quebec
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 8:37 am Post subject: |
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| sergitknight wrote: | i based my deck on the 2005 worlds critical mass
... and the plaxmanta, think of it as a counter spell like bathe in light |
The World's deck played Vinelasher Kudzu. The deck isn't Critical Mass without it, it's just a GU build. |
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Zay
Joined: 13 May 2005 Posts: 1
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| the_guy_123 wrote: | | sergitknight wrote: | i based my deck on the 2005 worlds critical mass
... and the plaxmanta, think of it as a counter spell like bathe in light |
The World's deck played Vinelasher Kudzu. The deck isn't Critical Mass without it, it's just a GU build. |
Not really the first deck that was called Critical Mass was a block deck from Kamigawa
here is the list by Mike Flores
Maindeck:
Artifacts
4 Sensei's Divining Top
Creatures
4 Sakura-tribe Elder
Instants
4 Hinder
4 Hisoka's Defiance
Legendary Artifacts
4 Umezawa's Jitte
Legendary Creatures
1 Isao, Enlightened Bushi
4 Keiga, The Tide Star
4 Kodama Of The North Tree
4 Meloku The Clouded Mirror
Sorceries
4 Kodama's Reach
Basic Lands
9 Forest
7 Island
Lands
4 Tendo Ice Bridge
Legendary Lands
1 Minamo, School At Water's Edge
1 Oboro, Palace In The Clouds
1 Okina, Temple To The Grandfathers
Sideboard:
2 Gnarled Mass
4 Jushi Apprentice
4 Threads Of Disloyalty
2 Consuming Vortex
1 Minamo's Meddling
2 Wear Away |
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