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Laplie
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Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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It's so obvious they were planned, it's nauseating.
Right before the buildings collapse, there are several explosions - the same explosions that happen when a building is rigged to collapse...then the buildings fell STRAIGHT down perfectly.
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If you watch some of the simulations, you would see why this is the case. The towers were built basically like curtains with the windows and frame on the outside hanging from the top most floors. When the topmost floors collapsed, the outside shell no longer had any support, so it fell. On the inside, the floors kept stacking on top of each other.
If you think about it, falling straight down is the way it should collapse since it was a perfect rectangular prism. If it fell to the side, that would be suspicious because that implies explosives that all didn't go off at the same time or which weren't evenly distributed. |
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h0m3r
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| Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:47 am Post subject: |
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the conspiracy theories re: the pentagon attack are far more convincing than the 9/11 ones....
yes, i have seen it |
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Vimes
Joined: 03 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:23 am Post subject: |
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Haven't seen the video, but I just wanted to say that "liberal propaganda" is an oxymoron. Heavy on the moron.
We never just make stuff up. Bush does such a good job that we don't even need to. You guys, on the other hand... |
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Grimmjow
Joined: 02 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:24 am Post subject: |
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Well, I'm not going to lie, I do think the pentagon one was made up. But imagine this: would you want your country to find out that your nations head planning base was hit?
Answer: Of course not, It'd put the people into a frenzy, more chaotic than the far lefters who yelp "OMGGG BUSH DID 9/11 FOR MONEY!!!!11ONE HE ALSO HATES BLACK PEOPLE!!!11ONEEEE" |
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NightFlare
Joined: 08 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| so teh zing mi brohter s8d loked liek a ufo was actuali and heliocoptr .... |
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Craze
Joined: 30 Jan 2005
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Location: Indiana, U
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| Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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| iKe wrote: | | I don't want people to think I'm putting any conspiracys out of question. But I find it very hard to believe everything in that video is true. Things about 9/11 definitly don't add up and it shows theres somthing that is being hidden from the public but to say it was a scheme to make money reallly makes no sense |
Conspiracy or not, money was made. And lots of it.
Outside of insurance and stocks, 9/11 allowed Bush to push for a major increase in defense. They got this from United Defense one of many smaller companies owned by The Carlyle group.
Investors of the The Carlyle group included both the Bush Family and The Bin Laden Family.
oh and just to throw some interesting material out there:
http://www.michaelmoore.com/index.php
Yea, he may be a big fruit but he tends to back everything with sources. |
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Taodd
Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:36 am Post subject: |
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Laplie, how do you support a building from the top? You'd have to hang it from something, like curtains. And last I checked, the twin towers weren't hanging before they collapsed, they were resting on the ground just like every other skyscraper.
Also, there are 2 reasons buildings don't normally collapse straight down. 1: there are things inside the buildings. The weight of a skyscraper is not completely evenly spaced out, there's all sorts of furniture and people and things. 2: the support structure of the building isn't all at the same strengh if there is a collapse (some area had to be weakened or something) unless something were to affect every part of the support structure just about exactly the same (most likely in a controlled collapse).
In a normal collapse the different placements of weight and support strengh cause some areas to collapse before others. In a demolition collapse a building falls either straight down or in a predetermined pattern because instead of the supports being weakened and then broken by the weight of what's above them the supports are simply blown away, causing everything above them to start falling at the same time.
And of course to top it all off. A plane (yes even one of that size) would not do enough damage to cause any skyscraper in real use to collapse. Skyscrapers have taken plane hits and nasty fires plenty before, and have yet to collapse from either or the combination. |
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Superdood
Joined: 16 Jan 2006
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| The moon landing WAS real, the van allen belt doesn't emit that much radiation, and they propelled through it so fast, that they got as much radiation as you might get on a sunny day in a few seconds, it was not a big deal. |
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Craze
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Location: Indiana, U
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| Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:09 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | And of course to top it all off. A plane (yes even one of that size) would not do enough damage to cause any skyscraper in real use to collapse. Skyscrapers have taken plane hits and nasty fires plenty before, and have yet to collapse from either or the combination. |
But a series of detenations would do it. Which is what the video says.
Its scary thinking of the weird occurings of 9/11. What happened to those on United 93?
Another scary thing is that only 4 fighter jets were left to defend the east coast during 9/11 and they couldn't even defend them because Bush didn't give the access till 15 minutes after 93 had crashed.
Can you honestly tell me that he didn't know 93 would be the last of the planes to be hijacked that day? |
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NightFlare
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| Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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| It's pretty feasible, since Bush has no heart. |
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iKe
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Location: New York
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| Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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I'm don't want to get in a fight with anyone about bush or whatever so I'm just not gonna comment about what the video and people claim he did....
But if there was a second explosion in the twin towers why bother with crashing a plane into it... I mean does it make it better if terrorist hijack a plane and thousands of people or blow up a building and kill thousands of people....
Propaganda is very easy to believe and people usually turn to it and tend to believe it especially when its targeted at sombody who they don't like (Bush for example). Obviosly things will not always add up perfectly but what major event ever does? |
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Craze
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Location: Indiana, U
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| Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | But if there was a second explosion in the twin towers why bother with crashing a plane into it... I mean does it make it better if terrorist hijack a plane and thousands of people or blow up a building and kill thousands of people....
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Well if you watched the video that would be apperent. The three main targets were the twin towers and the pentagon.
Now, the twin towers alone had more security between the two then the white house does, probably because 9/11 wasn't the first attack on them. Secondly the pentagon would of been near impossible to get bombs in, which is why they never did, they shot a fucking missle at it. Now knowing these securitys were in place and the actual fact that you couldn't even use bombs to attack the pentagon, what would you be more likely to belive? someone highjacked a airplane and ran it into each area or someone miraclely got bombs in there?
At the time hijacking a airplane wouldn't be that difficult...I'm just saying.
Also, I find it funny that their building a tower in place of the twin towers called the "freedom tower, its going to be the biggest skyskraper in America and purely residental. Who the hell is going to live in the top floor of the tallest god damn tower let alone live in a building with a literal target on it? Thats fucking funny to me. |
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Iatromancer
Joined: 13 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 9:46 am Post subject: |
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| Conspiracy theories are, by their nature, irrefutable. After all, anything that conflicts with, or contradicts, it can be explained away as part of the conspiracy. |
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