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Gerrardfo
Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 318
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 4:00 pm Post subject: BW Discard (Hand in Hand) |
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Olivier Ruel's 4th place deck from PT: Honolulu:
4 Caves of Koilos
4 Godless Shrine
4 Orzhov Basilica
1 Shizo, Death's Storehouse
1 Eiganjo Castle
6 Swamp
2 Plains
4 Plagued Rusalka
4 Ravenous Rats
4 Dark Confidant
3 Hand of Cruelty
2 Shrieking Grotesque
2 Paladin en-Vec
3 Teysa, Orzhov Scion
4 Ghost Council of Orzhova
2 Okiba-Gang Shinobi
3 Umezawa's Jitte
4 Castigate
3 Mortify
//Sideboard:
2 Terashi's Grasp
1 Descendant of Kiyomaro
2 Distress
2 Cranial Extraction
2 Phyrexian Arena
2 Orzhov Pontiff
2 Seize the Soul
2 Slay
Ruud Warmenhoven's top 8 deck from PT: Honolulu:
4 Godless Shrine
4 Caves of Koilos
1 Eiganjo Castle
1 Shizo, Death's Storehouse
5 Plains
8 Swamp
3 Savannah Lions
3 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
4 Ravenous Rats
4 Dark Confidant
4 Shrieking Grotesque
4 Hypnotic Specter
2 Ghost Council of Orzhova
2 Hand of Cruelty
1 Kami of Ancient Law
4 Umezawa's Jitte
4 Mortify
2 Faith's Fetters
//Sideboard:
4 Castigate
3 Last Gasp
2 Manriki-Gusari
2 Otherworldly Journey
1 Nekrataal
2 Okiba-Gang Shinobi
1 Kami of Ancient Law |
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Dr_Moo
Joined: 26 Nov 2004 Posts: 987
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| You know the format is interesting when 1 mana 2/2s aren't good enough to make an aggro deck's cut. |
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MarkTwainIII
Joined: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 100
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| i blame it on the powerful slower decks |
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gregor
Joined: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 29
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| ruel's deck isn't about balls to the wall aggro |
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Dr_Moo
Joined: 26 Nov 2004 Posts: 987
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Obviously not, but in past formats Isamaru would have been an automatic inclusion in any aggro deck. There was a time when Goblin Cohort would have been really good. Right now, he doesn't get played. The creatures in this format are as high quality as we've ever seen by a pretty large margin. There are just countless creatures at nearly every possible mana cost that are well above average. |
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mashedtato12
Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Posts: 7
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| i tweakedruels hand in hand for a JSS competition in St. Cloud Minnesota........i took second. i REALLY like this deck it has a ton of potential it def. needs to drop a ghost council for a mortify. cuz you get ghost council overload. but i think that ruels version is crazy good so i advise people to play it. |
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ant900
Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 2449 Location: somewhere
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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| isay drop a teysa too, it just doesnt seem useful enough to have 3 |
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kilomitro
Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 165
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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| i honestly cant see tesya being good. in an aggro deck 3 creatures is ALOT!her second ability thought is pwnage. i think the deck is great, but i dont like its odds against aggro. |
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Lackeos
Joined: 10 Oct 2004 Posts: 255
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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This deck is amazing against aggro. I'm 7-0 matches against Gruul beats.
I cut 1 Rusalka, 1 Teysa, and 1 Ghost-Council for 1 Mortify, 1 Descendant of Kiyomaro, and 1 Shrieking Grotesque.
I think the Distresses sideboard are kind of :-/ and need to be substituted for something better. I can't tell you what. Descendants, another Jitte, maybe a third Terashi's Grasp, some Paladin En-Vecs, etc.. I haven't thought of any good ideas yet. |
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Shagrath
Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 202
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:42 am Post subject: wtf? |
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| kilomitro wrote: | | i honestly cant see tesya being good. in an aggro deck 3 creatures is ALOT!her second ability thought is pwnage. i think the deck is great, but i dont like its odds against aggro. |
I've tested this deck before it's appearance in honolulu and i must disagree with your opinion. Teysa is so much powerful.... Plagued Rusalka + Teysa is prolly gg vs mirror and zoo/grull decks.
After sb, u have only advantages against agro. Ruel's version is a bit more directioned against control, but if u are playing that new version with black and white shoals, zoo is almost a bye against this |
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tinman
Joined: 05 Nov 2005 Posts: 198 Location: Winter par
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:06 pm Post subject: replys |
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i know exactly what the distress needs to be subbed for ruub did it its called castrate i mean castigate  |
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pppppp
Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 181
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:24 am Post subject: |
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| all you morons who didnt see okiba gang in this deck before ruel showed it to you should be ashamed |
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h0m3r
Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 134
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| to be honest in early versions os BW its understandable not to run okiba gang since its hardly good synergy with Bob |
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Lackeos
Joined: 10 Oct 2004 Posts: 255
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:09 am Post subject: Re: replys |
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| tinman wrote: | i know exactly what the distress needs to be subbed for ruub did it its called castrate i mean castigate  |
You're right. Hand in Hand should play 4 Castigate main and 2 Castigate sideboard. GREAT IDEA.
Anyways, on a serious note, I'm gonna play some Mox Jet and Mox Pearl in Hand in Hand, because I won't get d/qed. |
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the_guy_123
Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 130 Location: Quebec
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:55 am Post subject: |
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| How about Persecute in the SB. I can hardly believe Ruel hasn't put that in, perhaps the meta wasn't what I think it was. |
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