DredgeSlicer

h0m3r · Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 134

The idea is to mindslice away both hands but gain a huge advantage with dredge creatures and arena/top action. basically while your opponent topdecks you can bring back 4/4 or larger beaters as well as potentially draw 2 cards instead of one.

5 Forest
4 Godless Shrine
4 Temple Garden
4 Overgrown Tomb
3 Swamp
1 Miren, the Moaning Well
3 Plains

1 Seed Spark
1 Faith's Fetters
1 Yukora, the Prisoner
1 Nightmare Void
4 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Loxodon Hierarch
3 Dimir House Guard
4 Farseek
4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
3 Wrath of God
4 Mindslicer
2 Golgari Grave-Troll
3 Grave-Shell Scarab
4 Phyrexian Arena

SB: 1 Ivory Mask
SB: 1 Eradicate
SB: 1 Cranial Extraction
SB: 4 Naturalize
SB: 1 Wrath of God
SB: 3 Loxodon Hierarch
SB: 1 Greater Good
SB: 3 Pithing Needle

Card Choices:

Mindslicer/Wrath/Miren/Greater Good -- Mindslicer and ways to sacrifice him. in addition, with greater good you also get to pick the best card out of the next 4, wrath wipes out opposing creature rushes, and miren gains back life lost from arena

There may well be a GB greater good deck with midslicer, kagemaro and kokusho, but thats for another thread

Grave-Shell Scarab/Golgari Grave Troll -- Large beaters to 'topdeck'. Scarab also provides a powerful weapon against counterspell decks

House-Guard -- Tutors for wrath/GG and midslicer, as well as some silver bullets, seed spark, fetters, nightmare void, and beaters hierarch and yukora. Also doubles as a sacrifice outlet for mindslicer himself.

Arena/Top -- Topdeck skillz after mindslicer. also both just awesome

Sideboard: Various silver bullets, along with 3 hierarch and the 4th wrath for vs Aggro, naturalize for tricky blood moons and other stuff, and pithing needle for things like vitu-ghazi which can be a problem if i've just emptied both hands and cleared the board

pppppp · Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 181

i remember thinking this was a nice deck when you beat me (i was using UWR control, and it was a very close match). i tried a similar thing with zur's which was a bit fiddly. no deck needs 4 tops, you could add a house guard or a fetters in its place, and 1 greater good seems odd, but your call. other than that the deck looks really cool. do you get mana screwed alot? with only 13 green sources for your mana accel you have a 16% chance of getting no green sources in your opening hand.

BabelFish · Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 72

COOLBOY · Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Posts: 424

16% is kinda high but what is the % of gettinga forest or a top

pppppp · Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 181

8% chance of not getting a green source or a top, maybe thats acceptable, your call

kikimikejiki · Joined: 26 Dec 2004 Posts: 664

Frank Karsten
2005 Worlds Top 8 - Standard
Main Deck
60 cards
1 Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers
1 Miren, the Moaning Well
2 Temple Garden
2 Overgrown Tomb
1 Watery Grave
2 Brushland
1 Island
1 Shizo, Death's Storehouse
3 Swamp
3 Plains
4 Forest
2 Tendo Ice Bridge
23 land

4 Yosei, the Morning Star
2 Kokusho, the Evening Star
1 Kagemaro, First to Suffer
4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
3 Greater Good
4 Kodama's Reach
2 Farseek
3 Gifts Ungiven
3 Goryo's Vengeance
3 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Reclaim
1 Recollect
1 Last Gasp
1 Putrefy
4 Wrath of God
i believe there are only 13 sources of green in this deck ... for it smana accell hmm wonder what that says about ur argument

pppppp · Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 181

im not arguing, i like the deck and i don't want to see him get mana screwed

Vodka_drink · Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 1152 Location: Brampton O

the deck looks very interesting...the only thing is that it has quite a few random cards in it...like 1 ofs of loxodon and such?....why play one ofs?

vodka

h0m3r · Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 134

the one-ofs are all tutor targets for the dimir house-guard.