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Suicide Black in vintage.



 
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Hank333



Joined: 23 Oct 2006
Posts: 309
Location: San Antoni

PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:19 am    Post subject: Suicide Black in vintage. Reply with quote

This is going to be my first time playing vintage. When i last played it we called it T1. It is a mox tourney, and i thought it would be fun to play. I have most of the cards(other then the power) for a suicide black tendrils/will strategy. I just needed some advice on card choices, since i know nothing about vintage, but i figure no one in my area knows anything so...

Dark Ritual 4
Cabal Ritual 4
Duress 4
Thoughtsieze 3
Cabal Therapy 2
Dark Confidant 4
Tendrils of Agony 2
Grim tutor 2
Demonic Consoltation 1
time twister 1
night whispers 1
Vampiric Tutor 1
Demonic Tutor 1
Imperical Tutor 1
Necropotence 1
mystical tutor 1
time walk 1
ancestrial recall 1
ponder 1
brainstorm 1
Yawgmoth's Will 1
Sensies Diving Top 2
Echoing Truth 1
Lotus Petal 1
Black Lotus 1
Mox Jet 1
Mox Saphire 1
Polluted Delta 4
Bloodstained Mire 3
Swamp 4
Underground Sea 3
Library of Alexandria 1

Sb.
Leyline of the void 4
Rebuild 3
Massacer 2
Diabolic Edict 2
Bayou 1
Xania Swarm 3



Right now i have been trying to keep the stradegy cheap(in terms of mana cost) and have not added Minds Desire or Yawgmoths Bargian. should I? should i cut timetwister, as its uses are limited? Do i need an alternate win condition? I was thinking i could add a couple of tarmogoyfs and regrowth with green. Should i try to be more disruptive with Wastelands and Strip mines? I figure Sensies Diving top + Dark confidant can be a alternate win path. Is 9 "duresses" enough, too much or not enough? SB needs tweaking too i am sure.

Could i also consider modifying the deck to included Ad Nassea?
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SniperMayer



Joined: 31 Jan 2008
Posts: 290

PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Other win condition can be tombstalker.
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twodioz



Joined: 27 Sep 2005
Posts: 121

PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would consider adding ad nauseum. It seems like the best unrestricted car for your deck. Then you could consider chrome mox as well.

Add burning wish maybe for resilience.
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trueeevil



Joined: 08 Dec 2007
Posts: 251

PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So this is suicide black how?
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HdH_Cthulhu



Joined: 24 Dec 2006
Posts: 39

PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trueeevil wrote:
So this is suicide black how?

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ZW



Joined: 25 Apr 2008
Posts: 227

PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
So this is suicide black how?


Do you not see the suicide black staples, such as carnophage and sacromancy??? What do you think this deck is, some kind of storm deck?! Foolish human!
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Lenin



Joined: 23 Jan 2007
Posts: 107

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:47 am    Post subject: No its not! Reply with quote

this random pile is NOT suicide black.
Its called TPS- The Pathetic Storm!
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Hank333



Joined: 23 Oct 2006
Posts: 309
Location: San Antoni

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd refer everyone to the 2007 vintage world championship. That is where the base of the deck desing came from, along with the name "suicide black." Thanks for the help.... or the flame?
If you look at the list, you'd see that its got 20 cards that kill yourself a little.
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Hank333



Joined: 23 Oct 2006
Posts: 309
Location: San Antoni

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vincent Forino, Suicide Black
2007 Vintage Championship Top 8
Main Deck

60 cards

2 Bazaar of Baghdad
3 Bloodstained Mire
1 Cabal Pit
1 Library of Alexandria
3 Polluted Delta
1 Strip Mine
4 Swamp
2 Underground Sea
1 Wasteland

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18 lands


4 Dark Confidant

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4 creatures 1 Ancestral Recall
1 Black Lotus
4 Cabal Ritual
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Dark Ritual
1 Demonic Consultation
1 Demonic Tutor
4 Duress
1 Echoing Truth
2 Extirpate
3 Grim Tutor
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Necropotence
3 Night's Whisper
3 Tendrils of Agony
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will

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38 other spells
Sideboard


1 Chain of Vapor
1 Darkblast
1 Hurkyl's Recall
2 Ill-Gotten Gains
4 Leyline of the Void
2 Massacre
3 Null Rod
1 Wasteland

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15 sideboard cards


I would guess everyone would argue that wizards doesn't know how to name decks, i could agree with that. But you all suck.
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warwizard87



Joined: 04 Oct 2006
Posts: 201

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

not sure why wizards called that suicide black its either TEPS or bob tendrials, your build is decent especialy in a low powerd enviroment.
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Vito



Joined: 24 Oct 2009
Posts: 32

PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands
9 [GUR] Swamp
9 [UNH] Swamp

// Creatures
1 [ON] Grinning Demon
1 [JGC] Phyrexian Negator
4 [TO] Nantuko Shade
3 [M10] Hypnotic Specter
4 [EX] Carnophage

// Spells
1 [A] Black Lotus
1 [A] Mox Jet
1 [MR] Chrome Mox
1 [SH] Mox Diamond
4 [A] Dark Ritual
1 [VI] Vampiric Tutor
4 [OD] Entomb
1 [A] Demonic Tutor
1 [US] Yawgmoth's Will
4 [UL] Unearth
4 [ARE] Duress
3 [FNM] Reanimate
3 [US] Exhume


here's my idea for suicide black...no sb yet but i haven't decided if i'm using it or not...what do ya'll think?
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