Ext Tooth

BurningStar4 · Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 53

How viable is TaN in the current Extended?

Just wondering, since it did pretty well at GP Charlotte. (3rd as played by Kyle Goodman)

Here's the list:
Main:

Tools:
3 Oblivion Stone
4 Sensei's Divining Top
3 Moment's Peace
2 Mindslaver

Creature box:
1 Darksteel Colossus
1 Sundering Titan
1 Triskelion
2 Eternal Witness
1 Mephidross Vampire
1 Kiki-jiki, Mirror Breaker

Win:
4 Tooth And Nail

Accel:
4 Sakura-tribe Elder
2 Talisman Of Unity
4 Reap And Sow
4 Sylvan Scrying

Land:
5 Forest
1 Tranquil Thicket
4 Urza's Mine
4 Urza's Power Plant
4 Urza's Tower
4 Windswept Heath
1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All

Sideboard:
1 Duplicant
1 Platinum Angel
1 Sundering Titan
1 Leonin Abunas
1 Moment's Peace
2 Naturalize
3 Orim's Chant
1 Mindslaver
3 Kataki, War's Wage
1 Plains

For those who don't know TaN, or Tooth and Nail:
It was a type 2 combo deck based on its namesake card (Tooth and Nail), as well as assembling Urzatron for the 7-9 mana necessary to wreck havoc with a Darksteel Collossus, Sundering Titan, Kiki-Jiki, Triskelion, and Mephidross Vampire......and others.

I mean, come on.........it has been doing grand online (MTGO)....

Well, comments......besides "tooth sucks"...
(or at least explain why you think tooh sucks)

st4x · Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 358

i think its pretty good except for the fact that that unlike what you said is not a t2 "combo" deck it is a control deck. im tired of people saying its a combo deck.

farfromsane · Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Posts: 14

your missing 1 thing
duplicant

VacancyMan · Joined: 01 May 2005 Posts: 308

While certainly not a traditional X + Y combo deck, Tooth and Nail plays very much like a combo deck and in a metagame environment, it plays the role of a combo deck, which seeks to win as fast as possible and is beaten by either disruption or racing, with the latter difficult to accomplish.

The last incarnations of Tooth and Nail I remember seeing in Extended featured Living Wish. I don't know if that is still good enough, seeing as our successful decklist here doesn't utilize it.

Mustang · Joined: 21 Sep 2004 Posts: 52

Counterspell.

Paskins_Appr · Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 23

Karma · Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 46

Tooth and Nail is ok in extended, but considering how hard of a matchup ichorid is I wouldn't recommend it. Although I still think it is funny how it was affinity vs tooth and nail as a semi final matchup in charlotte.

BurningStar4 · Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 53

TaN does nothing controllish........jmo. Especially since all it does all game is ramp mana, moments peace, then go off.

Just because a Mindlslaver is there, doesn't mean its control.

Oh, and Duplicant is sided - sometimes it doesn't help vs Heartbeat and other creatureless concotions (in my meta). Plus, it did well at the GP as was.

Paskins_Appr · Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 23

BOARD control + Combo.

This is TAN.

xmtgjunkiex · Joined: 09 Apr 2005 Posts: 135

Meh i played TnN in t2...

it was a combo deck that usually played as a control deck until it could win unless it went off quick [ turn 3 or turn 4.. ]

Plow Under ( i love plow under ), Mindslaver or O Stone, reap and sow, and eternal witness lets it act as control when it needs too..

but it wins as a combo deck mostly Wink

Neko1976 · Joined: 21 Dec 2004 Posts: 3

Think TN must play Living wish in ext.

den18 · Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 387

TaN does not ahve ichorid as a really bad matchup. moments peace helps a lot. elder blocks one of them. Mindslaver slows them down and removes an ichorid. Top helps stabalize vs cabal therapy. Its not a bad matcup its a decent match up which the TaN player likes since they cant do anything vs mephi trisk or blazing archon

MarkTwainIII · Joined: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 95

living wish, burning wish... looks good to me o.O

EDIT:
off the top of my head,i janked me up a pile

4xsenseis divining top
4xliving wish
4xsylvan scrying
4xreap and sow
4xburning wish
3xtooth and nail
4xsakura tribe elder
4xpernicious deed
1xkiki-jiki, mirror breaker
1xtriskelion
1xmephidross vampire
1xdarksteel colossus
1xsundering titan
1xduplicant
3xurzas mine
3xurzas tower
3xurzas power plant
1xboseiju, who shelters all
1xmountain
1xswamp
2xforest
4xcity of brass
4xforbidden orchard
1xtendo ice-bridge
SB:1xurzas mine
SB:1xurzas tower
SB:1xurzas power plant
SB:1xboseiju, who shelters all
SB:1xtendo ice-bridge
SB:4xpyroclasm
SB:4xplow under
SB:1xduress
SB:1xcabal therapy

Baryonyx · Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 1020 Location: Illinois

Besides the luck that you will draw a trisk or duplicant (if added) you realy have no good way of dealing with say Meddling Mage except o-stone which aginst a deck that generaly runs Meddling Mage gets countered. Plus discard such as duress and cabal theropy spell trouble for TnN or TaN.

den18 · Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 387

what deck plays meddling mage???? As for discard yes it is a decnt problem there is again no big deck that plays a lot of discard and as well have top to support the combo