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Shocklands Will Return in Return!


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GreenBear



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

massOass wrote:
GreenBear wrote:
The whole idea of reprinting the duals, was to reduce there cost so more people could play modern etc.


That is not so true. Wizards of the Coast is a Corporation and wants profit, the shocklands are expensive because they are used in nearly every format and demand is high. During Ravnica Standard in 2003, Watery Grave, Steam Vents and the UW one were all around $40 a piece. There was UB control, UR Dragonstorm, UR Magnivore, UW control and UWb control, Zoo was even popular. The other shocklands were all around 20 a piece.

They got a bigger jump in price when Wizards announced Modern as a format, which made them relevant again. Now that they have plateaued price and Wizards only gets paid when they are originally sold to shops and merchants, not when the shops sell them to the players. That is how capitalism works, Supply and Demand and yes demand will be high for these cards upon release but wait a month after and the price will drop, sort of like when gas prices go up during the driving season in the summer but if you wait a month after the hike the prices go back down.


This really is a terrible attempt to explain supply and demand, as you completely ignore supply, which is why the price will go down.

If they reprinted ancestral recall for example there would be outrage as something of very rare supply would now be much more common and its price would plummet. This is what will happen with shock lands to a less extreme extent , chances are whilst Rav is the main set after the inital demand they will cost about the same a fecthland did when zen was the main draft set.
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GreenBear



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly your attempt to draw an example makes no sense, when did I compare dual lands to a loaf of bread thats just stupid. Sigh. Honestly since mythic rares have been printed no rare has cost over 8 bucks at the most. Snapcaster mage for example was played in loads of formats whilst he was in print (so is comparable to a fecthland see this comparision makes sense unlike yours) but did he cost a fortune no. His price will go up for sure as instrad goes out of print and the card becomes more scarce. But never ever in the history of economics has a rare thing become less rare and become more valuable.

You needed fechlands to win, in zen standard did they cost a fortune? You needed m12 lands to win in? m12 std did these cost a fortune. You needed the mana lands to win in worldwake standard did these cost a fortune no. All of these things are good comparisons to make to a shock land they serve the same purpose are equally as rare and will be equally as readily available.
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GreenBear



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To all the people who somehow thought the price of dual lands was going to be astronomical now return to ravnica has come out. Time has proved you undeniably wrong.

As a penance I think you should all not offer your opinions on anything for a month, for your own and the general good of mankind. You can not offer your opinions for longer if you like and the world will be a better place for it.
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