Liliana of the Dark Realms - M13 - Discussion

GreenBear · Joined: 27 Jul 2010 Posts: 504

If it was -2 rather than -3 it would be quite good, as it is its very mediocre.

LuckyDucky · Joined: 14 Jan 2012 Posts: 165

Dipiano · Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Posts: 3

signets will not get reprinted, the desginers said that they wouldnt print cards as strong as compulsive research remand and the signets in an article they said those exact words

mtgsoldier · Joined: 17 Dec 2007 Posts: 56

They will not print things as powerfull as signets?

shit just got serious 0_0

Stucco · Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 913

Super-flavorful that her last ability is Witch Engine.

R0B · Joined: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 70

*fap*

EMA · Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 189

Qoshoq · Joined: 17 Jan 2012 Posts: 1

I remain baffled as to why Wizards thinks Compulsive Research is "powerful". Remand I could at least imagine (although there was a time in T2 where it wasn't even the best counterspell played), but Research is a sorcery speed +1 card advantage at most, how is that "powerful"?

Anyway, I don't think this version of Lilliana will be any good. Mono black just doesn't have enough tools to be a functioning deck, and continuously drawing lands just isn't a strong enough ability to be worth the cost.

aqualad33 · Level 1 Judge Joined: 18 Jan 2010 Posts: 252

personally, I think this is the worst planeswalker ever printed. The first issue is that it's a card that places a great deal of restriction on how you can build your deck, in order to play this card at it's fullest you need to be playing mono black or mono black with a splash color, and even when this card is opperating at full effectiveness it is still not impressive at 4 mana.

Its + ability is only +1 and thus makes it hard to keep alive especially when it does not protect itself. Also the +1 will rarely have any impact in the game. Searching for swamps is not going to be that grate after you have already hit 4 mana especially since they go to your hand as opposed to the battlefield. This basically becomes a 4 mana sylvan skrying that only looks for swamps, basically worse on all accounts.

now the -3 abillity is more flexible, but if you are using it for removal, then it is a strictly worse dismember, and if you are using it for a boost, then you are spending 4 mana to open yourself up to a 2 for 1 if your opponent has any removal just to do the same extra damage that a geist adds but it will cost you a card and the boosted creature will usually not have hexproof.

lastly, the ultimate is terrible as well. Think about it, once you are able to tick it up 4 times and then blow the ultimate the more often the not you will have enough mana to cast whatever you need, and anything that you could take advantage of that much mana is unimpressive without going through all that work to go ultimate lili.

All in all, I really think wizards kinda missed the ball on this one, I'm not even sure where this could be good since everything that you would want this card to do something else does better which is not what you want from a planeswalker.

Jacois · Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 1155

This card is broken.

Spyx · Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 1186

Oh look it's a terrible version of solemn simulacrum which also puts heavy restrictions on your deck. If the swamp was put into play tapped then it might be playable.

Engrishskill · Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 1152

Worst planeswalker ever printed seems dramatic. I couldn't say whether it will see worthwhile play, but putting an extra land into play each turn has been good historically. Most of the time, with walkers, I don't bother with looking at anything, but the + abilities.

It's neat that the card is something of an homage to three iconic past elements of black control decks though: sols & baubles, nightmares and lake of the dead. Neat.