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Jace’s Phantasm - M13 - Discussion


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JohnnyBravo



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:16 pm    Post subject: Jace’s Phantasm - M13 - Discussion Reply with quote



I think Jace’s Phantasm is one of the most interesting card of m13 right now. And I like the synergy with new card Mind Sculpt http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=131960&d=1338849166. What do you think about?

Here's is my decklist idea

UW Delver-Jace by JohnnyBravo

// Lands
4 [M12] Glacial Fortress
4 [SOM] Seachrome Coast
9 [ARC] Island (1)
1 [5E] Plains (1)
3 [ISD] Moorland Haunt

// Creatures
4 [ISD] Delver of Secrets/Insectile Aberration
1 [M12] Phantasmal Image
4 [ISD] Snapcaster Mage
4 [ISD] Geist of Saint Traft
4 [M13] Jace's Phantasm

// Spells
3 [ISD] Runechanter's Pike
4 [M12] Ponder
4 [NPH] Vapor Snag
3 [M13] Mind Sculpt
4 [DKA] Thought Scour
4 [NPH] Gitaxian Probe
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FrostFire



Joined: 26 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok I'll call BS here.

if that mind sculpt is a real card and is not a rare/mythic. I will quit mtg for good.

As a strictly limited modo player, that card would be one of the dominant cards ever printed for limited format. As a common u would see way too many of these, just imagine someone who gets 3-4 of these in their deck.

and UW is at its best when it can stretch the game anyway. Landing 3 of these would mean game is over by turn 13 every time.
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GunsAndDope



Joined: 12 Jul 2011
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=131960&d=1338849166

These are fakes, I'm gonna put money on it. But if they do happen to be real, I will wonder what this means for the state of draft as we know it.


Link to discussion thread: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=421587
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JohnnyBravo



Joined: 22 Apr 2011
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GunsAndDope wrote:
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=131960&d=1338849166

These are fakes, I'm gonna put money on it.


These are already confirmed cards.


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darkwizard42
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tome Scour did 5 for U ... seems like Mind Sculpt is pretty real to me.

As for the Phantasm...I'm surprised its not Rare...
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JohnnyBravo



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And with this



I think it could be played in Modern too...
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GunsAndDope



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

darkwizard42 wrote:
Tome Scour did 5 for U ... seems like Mind Sculpt is pretty real to me.

As for the Phantasm...I'm surprised its not Rare...


A common at 1U that mills 7? That's freaking retarded. Draft will being who gets the best mono u mill deck.
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GunsAndDope



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnnyBravo wrote:
And with this



I think it could be played in Modern too...


Doubtful.
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Balaviaris



Joined: 15 Feb 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you wanna play the illusion in modern, use Ranger of Eos with Hedron Crab. GG? Smile
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EMA



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tech vs dedicated mill is da 75 cards deck. fuck yeah Cool
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Burton911



Joined: 09 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like how you take an established deck, and make it worse for no reason.
Not only that you make the deck worse, no you make it worse for two cards that dont even do that much if you happen to draw and play them both. Its even possible that they do nothing if your opponent puts no other cards in his graveyard.
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LuckyDucky



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

turn 1 5/5 flyer in modern is good stuff!

(archive trap)
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Strid3r



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can render any Modern mill deck worthless by 1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth in sb.
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NearSideMoon



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Mill deck in Modern is legitimate, under the assumption you are targeting yourself to put Vengevine in the graveyard.

Because if you're not, then you're just the fool who likes putting Red Mana Rituals and Past in Flames in the graveyard, or who thinks that he can deck an opponent with Emrakul in his deck.
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EMA



Joined: 15 Feb 2007
Posts: 189

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FrostFire wrote:
ok I'll call BS here.

if that mind sculpt is a real card and is not a rare/mythic. I will quit mtg for good.

As a strictly limited modo player, that card would be one of the dominant cards ever printed for limited format. As a common u would see way too many of these, just imagine someone who gets 3-4 of these in their deck.

and UW is at its best when it can stretch the game anyway. Landing 3 of these would mean game is over by turn 13 every time.


Just saying bur in triple innistrad you had the blue instant with flashback that cost U that milled just 1 less for the same mana cost, but I don't recall the mill deck being the nuts, except for the spider spawning self mill.dec, that still required you to be the only drafter of the archetype.
I don't see how this can be the "most dominant cards ever printed in limited", really.
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