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Miracle cards and MWS



 
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Top8eR



Joined: 03 Aug 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:13 am    Post subject: Miracle cards and MWS Reply with quote

How are we going to be able to prove we drew the miracle card? Best I can figure, you would have to put your hand facedown each time you draw your first card for the turn, to prove its the said card. Im sure there is an easier solution. Anyone know it?
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Top8eR



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: Miracle cards and MWS Reply with quote

Top8eR wrote:
How are we going to be able to prove we drew the miracle card? Best I can figure, you would have to put your hand facedown each time you draw your first card for the turn, to prove its the said card. Im sure there is an easier solution. Anyone know it?



Maybe look at the top card, like a Delver trigger, but not be able to take any actions inbetween looking at the top card and drawing? (besides reveal and pay for miracle obviously.)
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Strid3r



Joined: 18 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best is just drawing the card and if it is miracle and you want to cast it then undo the draw and reveal the top card of your library.
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Top8eR



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

strid3r wrote:
Best is just drawing the card and if it is miracle and you want to cast it then undo the draw and reveal the top card of your library.


This is probably best.
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GunsAndDope



Joined: 12 Jul 2011
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Undoing draw is the best way.

Otherwise, anything else you do ahead of time will show that you have miracle cards in your deck
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pseudodespot



Joined: 08 May 2011
Posts: 496

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is an option to right click on the library and look at the top card of the library. All I can tell you is, that this issue is already in discussion within the judges team.
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Kabelis



Joined: 27 Jun 2010
Posts: 105

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Undoing the draw and revealing the top card seems rather simple tbh. Any other way will waste a lot more time and give away information about running miracle cards.
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Canabiest



Joined: 15 Aug 2006
Posts: 367

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the Undo option as well
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Weedmonkey



Joined: 30 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The simplest solution would be to follow the reveal a la Delver. Look at top card, and if it's a Miracle drag it to the tabletop. Between phases and the text box, the communication is more than clear enough.
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Kabelis



Joined: 27 Jun 2010
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weedmonkey wrote:
The simplest solution would be to follow the reveal a la Delver. Look at top card, and if it's a Miracle drag it to the tabletop. Between phases and the text box, the communication is more than clear enough.


Seems kinda bad as you'd be forced to reveal that you're running miracles. Also, if you're just running 1 of them, the hassle is a bit much.
Are there any disadvantages to Cltr+R undo draw and revealing it then?
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styx^



Joined: 17 Mar 2005
Posts: 113

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't think there are, i think everybody will have to agree with strid3r, because that's just the best way: It's not really changing anything to do it, it doesn't reveal that you play some miracle-cards and if you only play like 1 Time Walk or 1 Angelmaker then it would really be annoying to check the topcard first every round.
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Ffancrzy
Level 1 Judge


Joined: 30 Apr 2006
Posts: 258

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I much prefer the undo draw, its just like how it works IRL, where if you make another action, you give up the chance to miracle (since then the Undo Draw button won't work).

Also gives away no information and is a faster way to do it.
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GreenBear



Joined: 27 Jul 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Undo draw +1
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Kurtgrunge



Joined: 06 Sep 2007
Posts: 30

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please let us undraw since always look at the card is so lame...
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