vexing devil

DonDiggy · Joined: 16 Mar 2010 Posts: 27

In a healthy Meta I would absolutely agree with you Kabelis. But that is obviously not the case. We have a Meta which is completely missing Combo (Ramp is dead and Frites will follow, in case you want to call these combo). And unfortunately, Controldecks are in a bad shape too, because of the Amount of agressive Decks (RDW, Ux Delver, Bx Zombies, RG Aggro). Those Decks make >50% of the Field.

In these Matchups, all you want is value. Value, and advantages in the Damage Race. 4 to the Head IS value, and a huge advantage in the Race.

Furthermore: We're talking about the Devil's Impact between Turn1 and Turn5 at maximum. There is really no need to discuss later Turns when the opposing deck stabilized itself, because if the RDW Player didnt succeed until then, its Shrine or its over. You just cant disagree: If the Game is supposed to end in 5 Turns, all you want is beef or damage, and this one grants both at a high level.

pg8 · Joined: 27 Feb 2011 Posts: 264

Every time I see someone play this card, I will imagine that I'm playing against that shitty kid at FNM who sees a turn 1 Delver, then decides to Shock my face.

Remember kids, if your Vexing Devil was a Shock, you might actually have an ok deck.

GunsAndDope · Joined: 12 Jul 2011 Posts: 261

1 drops in RDW are meant to do as much damage as possible before their inevitable death, in hopes of slowly working the opp down to burn range. With that being said, Vexing Devil is a great card that's only relevant early game. Late game, for RDW, he's less than spectacular, but can easily turn into fodder for Faithless Looting.

By the way, I like how Magic-League is "vexed" at Vexing Devil.

It's true, irony IS when life imitates art.

Grizzly440 · Joined: 21 Feb 2012 Posts: 15

you guys are such experts ha? he is good. period.

GreenBear · Joined: 27 Jul 2010 Posts: 504

pg8 · Joined: 27 Feb 2011 Posts: 264

Ffancrzy · Level 1 Judge Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Posts: 258

Russell_Nash · Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 709 Location: Burn Ward

Its a decent card worth consideration in RDW/burn decks in all formats. (but not 4 of auto include)

Both effects (4/3 creature or 4 damage to opponent) are strong for R. BUT your opponent chooses which mode they can deal with better, meaning you will NEVER get the effect you want from it.

Basically this card says "4 damage to opponent or losses late game combat to a better creature your opponent controls." There is no way they will let you have a 4/3 at any point in the game unless they are confident they can deal with it before it does any damage.

Long story short: if 4 damage to a player for R is good for your deck, it is good (like legacy burn decks). However, don't underestimate its lack of versatility that is often taken for grated by other direct damage functioning as creature removal and late game reach.

JacobMatthew · Joined: 16 Dec 2009 Posts: 126

there might be some way to abuse 1cmc reanimation .... like proc.. it seems ok to hit off of bbe... ranger of eos seems good... i think there are ways to make this card good guys, no???

JacobMatthew · Joined: 16 Dec 2009 Posts: 126

vengevine??

CMA-Flippi · Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:14 am Post subject:

It's worse than Browbeat.

darkwizard42 · Level 2 Judge Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 259

Flippi knows best.

Mrrr · Joined: 06 Aug 2011 Posts: 49

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