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Breakdown of Yesterdays Sealed Trial



 
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Burton911



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:39 am    Post subject: Breakdown of Yesterdays Sealed Trial Reply with quote

I could provide breakdowns of the sealed trials as following now.
Tell me if u like me to continue posting those, or whatever else u like to tell me Very Happy
If i proceed to post them im going to replace the ArchtypeColor Shortcuts with the guilds and the shards as far as its possible.
And i guess especcally for limited it would be interesting to gahter empyrical data tough thats a lot of work Sad

13 BR .......................................( 17.80 %) | 1x - 6-0 | 1x - 5-1 | 1x - 4-1 | 2x - 1-1 | 1x - 1-0 | 7x - 0-1 |
7 WR ........................................( 9.58 %) | 1x - 2-1 | 1x - 1-1 | 1x - 1-0 | 4x - 0-1 |
6 BG .........................................( 8.21 %) | 2x - 1-1 | 1x - 1-0 | 3x - 0-1 |
6 UR ........................................( 8.21 %) | 1x - 3-1 | 2x - 1-0 | 3x - 0-1 |
5 UG ........................................( 6.84 %) | 1x - 3-1 | 1x - 1-1 | 3x - 0-1 |
4 RG ........................................( 5.47 %) | 3x - 1-1 | 1x - 0-1 |
4 WU ........................................( 5.47 %) | 1x - 3-1 | 1x - 2-1 | 2x - 0-1 |
3 WB ........................................( 4.10 %) | 1x - 1-1 | 2x - 0-1 |
2 RGb .......................................( 2.73 %) | 1x - 2-1 | 1x - 0-1 |
2 UB .........................................( 2.73 %) | 1x - 2-1 | 1x - 0-1 |
2 UBr .......................................( 2.73 %) | 1x - 3-1 | 1x - 1-1 |
2 WG ........................................( 2.73 %) | 2x - 1-1 |
2 WGr .......................................( 2.73 %) | 2x - 0-1 |
2 WRb ......................................( 2.73 %) | 1x - 4-1 | 1x - 1-1 |
1 BGr .......................................( 1.36 %) | 1x - 1-0 |
1 BGw ......................................( 1.36 %) | 1x - 2-1 |
1 BRw ......................................( 1.36 %) | 1x - 0-1 |
1 RGu .......................................( 1.36 %) | 1x - 0-1 |
1 RGw ......................................( 1.36 %) | 1x - 0-1 |
1 UGwb ....................................( 1.36 %) | 1x - 2-1 |
1 URw ......................................( 1.36 %) | 1x - 2-1 |
1 WBG ......................................( 1.36 %) | 1x - 0-1 |
1 WBr .......................................( 1.36 %) | 1x - 0-1 |
1 WUR ......................................( 1.36 %) | 1x - 0-1 |
1 WUb ......................................( 1.36 %) | 1x - 2-1 |
1 WUbr .....................................( 1.36 %) | 1x - 1-1 |
1 Wrg .......................................( 1.36 %) | 1x - 1-0 |

_____________________.-< Absent >-._____________________________________________________
___________________________________________________________________________________________
0 Unclassified Decks
Total Number of Decks in the Tournament: 73

208 Plains 2.84/player
194 Island 2.65/player
274 Swamp 3.75/player
322 Mountain 4.41/player
230 Forest 3.15/player

______________ -< Top 15 Most Played Cards >- ______________
39 Incinerate
36 Chandra's Outrage
29 Chasm Drake
29 Manalith
28 Shock
28 Gorehorn Minotaurs
27 Blood Ogre
26 Doom Blade
23 Gideon's Lawkeeper
23 Bloodrage Vampire
21 Act of Treason
21 Devouring Swarm
21 Goblin Fireslinger
20 Blood Seeker
19 Pacifism

Decklists with record,player name and Archtype and full Cardlist on pastebin (use Ctrl+F to seach through):
http://pastebin.com/7h1dXwwC


Last edited by Burton911 on Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:44 am; edited 3 times in total
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AppleofEris



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

THANK YOU SO MUCH!
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AppleofEris



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way, the most played cards are only counter in the md, not the sb, right?
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Burton911



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the list as seen here only counts the mb, you can find the sb list in the pastebin link tough
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Halldir



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

burton911: do you use any program for this?
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Burton911



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes of course, cause the other way would be, well lets say a little bit stupid in terms of time investment Razz
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AppleofEris



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was trying to find a good web crawler to do this with, but I only know a little C+ so I'm not much use with anything that doesn't have a GUI or a CLI with a verbose help command.

With this kinda info, we could build a program that makes the best sealed deck possible out of any pool.
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fdart17



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AppleofEris wrote:
I was trying to find a good web crawler to do this with, but I only know a little C+ so I'm not much use with anything that doesn't have a GUI or a CLI with a verbose help command.

With this kinda info, we could build a program that makes the best sealed deck possible out of any pool.


No. Not with this info. Humans make mistakes.
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Burton911



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If i understand what you want to do then justoocool's reply sums it up pretty much.
Cause even if you assume that everyone builds there Sealed decks perfectly, there is still the component of personal flavour, against which you cant argue.

Apart from that i dont get why you want to make a sealed builder robot Very Happy
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AppleofEris



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Burton911 wrote:
If i understand what you want to do then justoocool's reply sums it up pretty much.
Cause even if you assume that everyone builds there Sealed decks perfectly, there is still the component of personal flavour, against which you cant argue.

Apart from that i dont get why you want to make a sealed builder robot Very Happy


Because it is possible. And with a large enough data-set, you could produce a number of optimal builds for many different play styles.
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fdart17



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Apple -> For all practicle applications, this is not possible.
It is much too complex. If human life were infinite, hey, different story. But nobody is going to waste their time to make this application. It would take many, many years. And it still might end up being too complicated.

Bassicly, if you wanted to make this, you would need to test every possibly permutation, and simulate bots that can play every game in every way. Since the number of this for even just a set like M12 is bigger than a million times the amount of atoms in this universe, good luck Smile
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AppleofEris



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

justoocool wrote:
@Apple -> For all practicle applications, this is not possible.
It is much too complex. If human life were infinite, hey, different story. But nobody is going to waste their time to make this application. It would take many, many years. And it still might end up being too complicated.

Bassicly, if you wanted to make this, you would need to test every possibly permutation, and simulate bots that can play every game in every way. Since the number of this for even just a set like M12 is bigger than a million times the amount of atoms in this universe, good luck Smile


Why do you think the data is being derived from a long list of trials at ML?

But at any rate, your face reminds me of feces.
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Burton911



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have not posted these for a while since i simply forgot :/
Anyways yesterday was the first INN Sealed Trial.

10 WG ......................................( 14.70 %) | 6-0 | 3-1 | 3-0 | 2-1 | 2x 1-1 | 1-0 | 3x 0-1 |
8 WU ........................................( 11.76 %) | 3-1 | 3x 1-1 | 2x 1-0 | 2x 0-1 |

________________( 5.88 %)________________________________
4 RG ........................................ | 1-1 | 3x 0-1 |
4 WB ........................................ | 5-1 | 3-1 | 1-0 | 0-1 |
4 WR ........................................ | 1-1 | 3x 0-1 |

________________( 2.94 %)________________________________
2 BGr ....................................... | 2x 0-1 |
2 BR ......................................... | 2-1 | 1-1 |
2 BRu ....................................... | 2x 0-1 |
2 UB ......................................... | 1-1 | 1-0 |
2 UBr ....................................... | 2-1 | 0-1 |
2 UR ........................................ | 1-0 | 0-1 |
2 WGr ....................................... | 2x 0-1 |
2 WGu ...................................... | 1-0 | 0-1 |
2 WRu ...................................... | 1-1 | 0-1 |

________________( 1.47 %)________________________________
1 BG ......................................... | 0-1 |
1 BGu ....................................... | 0-1 |
1 BGwr ..................................... | 1-1 |
1 BRg ....................................... | 1-1 |
1 BRw ...................................... | 0-1 |
1 Gwb ....................................... | 0-1 |
1 RGwu .................................... | 2-0 |
1 UBg ....................................... | 2-1 |
1 UG ........................................ | 0-1 |
1 UGwb .................................... | 1-1 |
1 Uwbr ..................................... | 1-0 |
1 WBG ...................................... | 4-1 |
1 WBR ...................................... | 2-1 |
1 WBu ...................................... | 2-1 |
1 WGb ...................................... | 0-1 |
1 WRG ...................................... | 0-1 |
1 WUBRG .................................. | 0-1 |
1 WUb ...................................... | 0-1 |
1 WUr ....................................... | 1-0 |
1 ubg ....................................... | 0-1 |


_____________________.-< Absent >-._____________________________________________________
___________________________________________________________________________________________
0 Unclassified Decks
Total Number of Decks in the Tournament: 68

327 Plains
184 Island
191 Swamp
185 Mountain
229 Forest

______________ -< Top 15 Most Played Cards >- ______________
35 Avacynian Priest
32 Elder Cathar
29 Thraben Sentry
27 Blazing Torch
26 Brimstone Volley
25 Chapel Geist
25 Dead Weight
25 Travelerīs Amulet
24 Smite the Monstrous
24 Villagers of Estwald
24 Voiceless Spirit
23 Shimmering Grotto
22 Bonds of Faith
22 Village Bell-Ringer
21 Festerhide Boar

Decklists with record,player name and Archtype and full Cardlist on pastebin (use Ctrl+F to seach through):
http://pastebin.com/P4fewedC

white seems kinda strong :O

If you are often using netdraft for drafting you might want to have a look at this thread.
http://www.magic-league.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=15919
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limited



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

raw number data like this is so valuable that it could attract a lot of competitive players to this site if they find out about it. if someone has the time, i think that adding a strategy link to the ml navbars directing visitors to a page with as much number tables as possible would give ml a truly unique and imperative tool for players of all formats, which could really help build the community.
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