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Modern Tempered Steel



 
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Halldir



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

why not no springleaf drum?
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Halldir



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Posts: 221

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

+ darksteel citadel
+ count homunculus
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Blanchild



Joined: 25 Jul 2011
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Tempered is greatly outrun by 5c Zoo in speed and matchups.. Zoo is simply more solid.
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MotC



Joined: 24 Sep 2006
Posts: 73

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the list I'm currently testing.


// Lands
4 [7E] Plains (1)
4 [DIS] Hallowed Fountain
4 [SOM] Seachrome Coast
4 [DS] Darksteel Citadel

// Creatures
4 [MGD] Memnite
4 [DDF] Arcbound Worker
4 [M10] Ornithopter
4 [CFX] Court Homunculus
3 [NPH] Vault Skirge
4 [ALA] Master of Etherium
4 [DS] Arcbound Ravager
4 [MR] Frogmite

// Spells
2 [LRW] Springleaf Drum
3 [SOM] Mox Opal
4 [SOM] Tempered Steel
4 [MR] Thoughtcast


I would like Blinkmoth Nexus.

EDIT: I also think I can throw in Adakar Wastes over the Plains as having basic plains and life loss doesn't really matter.
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[-a-L-e-]



Joined: 25 Dec 2009
Posts: 38

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that the WB version is the right way to go because of a single card: disciple of the vault. If it was banned there's a reason...

Other points:

- with blue you have thoughtcast to have some gas in mid game, with black i think it's worth trying dark confidant and cut frogmite. I don't like to play a deck that empty his starting hand and then has no way to deal with a sweeper.

- the right number of mox opal it's for sure FOUR. Even in t2 a lot of list have 4 mox opal...here we have ravager to eat extra moxes.

- dispatch...who are the creatures that are a must-remove for a deck that want to win by the turn 4/5 ? i don't really see anything i would be scared of, by now i've cutted dispatch to play other things.

- etched champion+cranial planting is like disciple of the vault+ravager, it must be played...it wins games out of nowhere. Also, cranial it really shines with the 12 flying creatures here.

Here the list i would like to play right now:

// Lands
4 [GP] Godless Shrine
4 [AP] Caves of Koilos
2 [ZEN] Marsh Flats
2 [DS] Darksteel Citadel
4 [DS] Blinkmoth Nexus

// Creatures
4 [SOM] Memnite
4 [MR] Ornithopter
4 [MR] Disciple of the Vault
4 [RAV] Dark Confidant
4 [NPH] Vault Skirge
4 [ALA] Tidehollow Sculler
4 [DS] Arcbound Ravager
3 [SOM] Etched Champion

// Spells
2 [LRW] Springleaf Drum
4 [SOM] Mox Opal
3 [FD] Cranial Plating
4 [SOM] Tempered Steel

// Sideboard
SB: 3 [LRW] Thoughtseize
SB: 4 [LRW] Burrenton Forge-Tender
SB: 4 [WWK] Kor Firewalker
SB: 4 [NPH] Spellskite

The sb is of course pretty random 'cause the metagame it's still undefined...i've put some kor firewalker for red decks, burrenton for pyroclasm and firespout, thoughtseize against control and combo, spellskite against combo. Other strong sb cards could be ethersworn canonist, the white shrine, maybe dispatch, revoke existence...and chalice of the void if we see that zoo is so much a problem (by siding out disciple it blocks only 2 springleaf drum by our side while lock down 20 cards or so to them Very Happy).
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zebo_88



Joined: 12 Sep 2005
Posts: 123
Location: Phyrexia

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

since they're not banned and they work well with ravager and disciple, why not to thorw in some tezzeret 2.0 and thopter foundry?
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olliemydoggy



Joined: 11 Jul 2011
Posts: 33

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is my version
Creatures (23)
4 Memnite
4 Ornithopter
4 signal pest
4 Steel Overseer
3 Tidehollow Sculler
2 Etched Champion
2 Ranger of Eos

Non-creatures (15)
3 Mox Opal
4 Cranial Plating
4 Tempered Steel
4 Dispatch
5 Plains
1 Swamp
4 Glimmervoid
4 Flagstones of Trokair
4 Godless Shrine
4 Darksteel Citadel
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