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The Rock in T2, is it possible ?


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Magx



Joined: 07 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:35 pm    Post subject: The Rock in T2, is it possible ? Reply with quote

There's a lot of big creatures, good discard, walls.

the problem I think is the double and triple mana cost of things

Do you think it's possible to do a "The Rock" deck with current type 2 cards ?
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P_P4E



Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes.

You can probably match cawblade in card advantage while applying pressure...which is technically their gameplan. You're weak to sword though, so you would need maindeck answers to it. And not beast within as that card is pretty terrible.
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Magx



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I"m trying do to one but it's pretty difficult... and when I think i got something, I play against a deck that reminds me how it is also difficult to build/play/master

I plan on putting a (hopefully good) list soon.

Edit: oh, and what the hell, here's more or less skitchy first draw list :

I must say first that I have trouble with deciding if I want to stay with the straight B/G version or playing with a splash or big splash of white because the cards are so good

4x Birds
4x Wall of Omens or Overgrown Battlement
3x or 4x Thrun
2 or 3x Wurmcoil Engine
2x Baneslayer

4x Inquisition of Kozilek
3x Duress
2x or 3x Black Sun's Zenit or Day of Judgement
4x Go for the Throat (or Doom Blade)
4x Oblivion Ring (against Planeswalkers)
2x Gideon Jura ( I think it's really "The Rock' like)

* I know i didn't put any lands but I'll see that after I decided the colors.

Maybe I should do only B/W ? but I don't get any acceleration...

what do you think ? Plz help me


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P_P4E



Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this new format seems relatively weak to acidic slime...so maybe thats a card for this deck.

They can't really deal with solemn into grave titan without mana leak exactly, so thats one line of attack. You obviously have lotus cobra into Garruk as another insane play. The key has to be locking down the sword from cawblade, having answers to splinter-twin that aren't too specific, and being able to stabilize against mono red and tempered steel...all this while having some sort of plan against valakut.
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magicman85



Joined: 22 Aug 2009
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DO YOU SMELLLLLL
WHAT "THE ROCK"
IS COOKIN?
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Sligh_Br



Joined: 11 Jul 2011
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, you can. I'm working on something like that, actually. GWb, for that matter.

If somebody wishes to assist me, I could use your help if:

1- You can competently play one or more of the tier 1 Standard Archetypes.
2- You have some free time for testing.
3- You have the patience to put up with me constantly taking cards in and out of the deck.

If you qualify, message me either on IRC (Sligh_Br) or here on Magic League so we can arrange some matches.


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P_P4E



Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll do a rough, no testing in 10 minutes list here to show where im coming from...

Creatures:
4 Lotus Cobra
4 Solemn Simulacrum
3 Grave Titan
2 Inquisitor Exarch
3 Acidic Slime
2 Glissa, The Traitor

PW:
2 Garruk Primal Hunter
1 Liliana Vess

Spells:
5 HAND DISRUPTION OF SOME VARIETY, Probably 3 despise 2 duress.
2 doom blade
2 go for the throat
4 Explore

Lands:
4 Verdant Catacombs
2 Misty Rainforest
2 Marsh Flats
9 Forest
9 Swamp

SB
3 Nature's Claim
2 Black Sun Zenith
3 Disfigure
3 Obstinate Baloth
4 Surgical Extraction

This list is weak to valakut on purpose. The SB is geared toward swarm aggro and combo.
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jpaulus18



Joined: 16 Jun 2011
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the problem with the rock is its a bad deck
even when you had deed and spiritmonger it wasnt good
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P_P4E



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jpaulus18 wrote:
the problem with the rock is its a bad deck
even when you had deed and spiritmonger it wasnt good


so for your first post on this forum, you say something this awkward.

The Rock was a great deck back then. You could adapt to the format however you needed to but still be relatively even with the field.
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Sligh_Br



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

P_P4E wrote:

The Rock was a great deck back then. You could adapt to the format however you needed to but still be relatively even with the field.


That's about right.
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rentintin3



Joined: 11 Dec 2008
Posts: 73

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands
4 [R] Swamp (1)
3 [WWK] Tectonic Edge
4 [ZEN] Misty Rainforest
4 [ZEN] Marsh Flats
4 [ZEN] Verdant Catacombs
5 [MI] Forest (3)

// Creatures
2 [MBS] Viridian Emissary
4 [M11] Acidic Slime
4 [ZEN] Lotus Cobra
4 [MR] Solemn Simulacrum
3 [M11] Grave Titan
4 [ZEN] Vampire Nighthawk
3 [M11] Primeval Titan

// Spells
3 [ROE] Inquisition of Kozilek
2 [M11] Duress
1 [MBS] Go for the Throat
2 [MBS] Lead the Stampede
4 [NPH] Dismember

// Sideboard
SB: 2 [7E] Duress
SB: 3 [M11] Obstinate Baloth
SB: 3 [NPH] Sword of War and Peace
SB: 3 [MBS] Black Sun's Zenith
SB: 1 [ZEN] Disfigure
SB: 3 [SOM] Memoricide

I dont really like nighthawk but he has lifelink and deathtouch so he plays a role vs aggro and flies over battlement.
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GreenBear



Joined: 27 Jul 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The main things stopping this deck atm, are if its 3 colours the mana is to bad for competative magic, if its 2 colours ie bg the lack of a man land and still not part good mana.
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Magx



Joined: 07 Sep 2004
Posts: 452

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

P_P4E wrote:
I'll do a rough, no testing in 10 minutes list here to show where im coming from...

Creatures:
4 Lotus Cobra
4 Solemn Simulacrum
3 Grave Titan
2 Inquisitor Exarch
3 Acidic Slime
2 Glissa, The Traitor

PW:
2 Garruk Primal Hunter
1 Liliana Vess

Spells:
5 HAND DISRUPTION OF SOME VARIETY, Probably 3 despise 2 duress.
2 doom blade
2 go for the throat
4 Explore

Lands:
4 Verdant Catacombs
2 Misty Rainforest
2 Marsh Flats
9 Forest
9 Swamp

SB
3 Nature's Claim
2 Black Sun Zenith
3 Disfigure
3 Obstinate Baloth
4 Surgical Extraction

This list is weak to valakut on purpose. The SB is geared toward swarm aggro and combo.


I must say it looks good. I made 2 or 3 minor adjustments to my taste, but in all , it looks really good. Gonna comebakc to say how it does.
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andrew7913



Joined: 12 Jun 2005
Posts: 90

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol just played this guy in MWS, such BM, and the deck is terrible i was manascrewed in all 3 games we played and i still beat him LOL
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Davis



Joined: 06 Jun 2009
Posts: 27

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what does BM mean?
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