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wool_master
Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 6
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:23 pm Post subject: gideon jura / infect |
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Card Name:Gideon Jura
Mana Cost:
Converted Mana Cost:5
Types:Planeswalker — Gideon
:+2: During target opponent's next turn, creatures that player controls attack Gideon Jura if able.
-2: Destroy target tapped creature.
0: Until end of turn, Gideon Jura becomes a 6/6 Human Soldier creature that's still a planeswalker. Prevent all damage that would be dealt to him this turn.
Loyalty:6
Expansion: Rise of the Eldrazi
Rarity:Mythic Rare
this is just an example of a creature with infect
Inkmoth Nexus
land
Card Text T: Add 1 to your mana pool.
1: Inkmoth Nexus becomes a 1/1 Blinkmoth artifact creature with flying and infect until end of turn. It's still a land. (It deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters and to players in the form of poison counters.)
here is my question:
having gideon atacking as a 6/6 and the inkmoth blocking,
will the gideon keep the -1/-1 counters after turning back to planeswalker and atacking the next turn like when back in the days u could keep the modular counter on a blinkmoth nexus??
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Top8eR
Joined: 03 Aug 2009 Posts: 50
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| 0: Until end of turn, Gideon Jura becomes a 6/6 Human Soldier creature that's still a planeswalker. Prevent all damage that would be dealt to him this turn. |
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wool_master
Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 6
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| ok heres a part of the question next would be any -1/-1 counters on him would they stay on him till next activation? |
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Terri
Joined: 23 Jan 2010 Posts: 103
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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| if damage is prevented also infect creatures deal no damage and no counters. if a -1/-1 counter is placed on a creature it stays there even if the card changes its type. |
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gypsy
Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 1671
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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| wool_master wrote: | | ok heres a part of the question next would be any -1/-1 counters on him would they stay on him till next activation? |
yes anything that becomes a creature and then gets -1/-1 counters on it the counters will stay even after it stops being a creature |
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wool_master
Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 6
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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| what about infect creature attacking another planeswalker like jace the wallet sculptor |
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magicman85
Joined: 22 Aug 2009 Posts: 548
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Infect only deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters and players in the form of poison counters. Vs permanents (like jace) it just does regular damage not counters. |
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wool_master
Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 6
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| thanks! |
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Strid3r
Joined: 18 Jan 2010 Posts: 127
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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| What if an effect states that damage cant be prevented. Then gideon would get -1/-1 counters right? |
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Farseer Level 3 Judge
Joined: 03 Oct 2004 Posts: 335
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | 101.2. When a rule or effect allows or directs something to happen, and another effect states that it can’t happen, the “can’t” effect takes precedence. |
Correct.
In the case of "Prevent damage" vs "Can't prevent damage". Can't prevent damage wins.
If Everlasting Torment (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=142036) was in play, Gideon would take damage. |
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Clariax Level 3 Judge
Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Posts: 173
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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| If Gideon is a creature and takes damage from a source with infect or wither (assuming something stops it from being prevented), it both gets -1/-1 counters and loses loyalty counters. |
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