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T2 valakut ramp


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staja91



Joined: 30 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:25 pm    Post subject: T2 valakut ramp Reply with quote

Whats the best version of gr valakut, if my local metagame is mostly aggro deck (ww relic,vampires,boros,kuldotha red)?

// Lands
3 [M11] Terramorphic Expanse
2 [ROE] Evolving Wilds
1 [ZEN] Verdant Catacombs
4 [ZEN] Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle
5 [M11] Forest (1)
11 [SOM] Mountain (2)
2 [WWK] Raging Ravine

// Creatures
4 [M11] Primeval Titan
2 [WWK] Avenger of Zendikar
4 [ROE] Overgrown Battlement
2 [ZEN] Oracle of Mul Daya

// Spells
3 [M11] Cultivate
4 [WWK] Explore
2 [ZEN] Summoning Trap
3 [ZEN] Khalni Heart Expedition
3 [ZEN] Harrow
2 [MBS] Green Sun's Zenith
3 [MBS] Slagstorm

// Sideboard
SB: 2 [ZEN] Summoning Trap
SB: 1 [MBS] Slagstorm
SB: 2 [SOM] Koth of the Hammer
SB: 1 [SOM] Ratchet Bomb
SB: 2 [M11] Obstinate Baloth
SB: 4 [M11] Pyroclasm
SB: 2 [SOM] Tumble Magnet
SB: 1 [M11] Gaea's Revenge

This is my current version of the deck,just want to hear the opinion of others.

Thx
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Strid3r



Joined: 18 Jan 2010
Posts: 295

PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oracle and slagstorm dont go together.
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P_P4E



Joined: 31 Aug 2004
Posts: 579

PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hood wrote:
Oracle and slagstorm dont go together.


play one on turn three and the other on turn 4?

Most version run lotus cobra and some also have slagstorm...
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P_P4E



Joined: 31 Aug 2004
Posts: 579

PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks good.

I think the consensus on KHE is that you want 4 or zero. It helps itself go off and is one of the best ramp spells you can play. I'd cut a wall for it personally.

Koth might be better as Thrun, since you have summoning trap and Zenith.

Tumble magnet i dont mind now. People used to play it before and I thought it was incorrect, but with even UW control playing swords i think it has a home.
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Tao



Joined: 22 Dec 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your area is all aggro, play all the red sweepers you have sideboarded in the main, instead. You could probably cut the 3 KHE for like 1 slagstorm 2 pyroclasm.
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Spyx



Joined: 31 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does slagstorm kill that makes it worth a whole extra mana over pyroclasm? You could easily take another 8-10 damage in that one turn, especially if you're on the draw.
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staja91



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slagstorm kills planeswalkers, not just creatures Very Happy
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Bob_A_Wilson



Joined: 25 Mar 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Instead of playing Valakut, why don't you play something that doesn't make you look like a douche who wants to play the most broken deck?
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staja91



Joined: 30 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob_A_Wilson wrote:
Instead of playing Valakut, why don't you play something that doesn't make you look like a douche who wants to play the most broken deck?


Cause i'm a douche who wants to win Very Happy
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Tao



Joined: 22 Dec 2007
Posts: 864

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob_A_Wilson wrote:
Instead of playing Valakut, why don't you play something that doesn't make you look like a douche who wants to play the most broken deck?


Or you could be the faggot who thinks that they can accurately judge people's personalities based on what deck they play.

Them peoples irk me.
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MaximilianoX



Joined: 31 May 2005
Posts: 154

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kobemika wrote:
Slagstorm kills planeswalkers, not just creatures Very Happy

Slagstorm is still too slow.

The amount of damage aggro can do to you game 1 by turn 3 in comparison to turn 2 is too much to ignore.


If you really want to kill Planeswalkers, run Lightning Bolts, but Pyroclasm is the way to go.
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Bob_A_Wilson



Joined: 25 Mar 2010
Posts: 241

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonproject wrote:
Bob_A_Wilson wrote:
Instead of playing Valakut, why don't you play something that doesn't make you look like a douche who wants to play the most broken deck?


Or you could be the faggot who thinks that they can accurately judge people's personalities based on what deck they play.

Them peoples irk me.


Or you could be the faggot who is irked by people who make fun of other people for playing Valakut.

Btw, I'm gonna guess at your identity and say either CoolCreep or R4nd0m


Quote:
Cause i'm a douche who wants to win


If you already have the cards, then it's probably not a bad way to go, but I think the smart investment right now, if you were going to spend the money, is to play something that's heavier on the mirrodin side.
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Tao



Joined: 22 Dec 2007
Posts: 864

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob_A_Wilson wrote:
jonproject wrote:
Bob_A_Wilson wrote:
Instead of playing Valakut, why don't you play something that doesn't make you look like a douche who wants to play the most broken deck?


Or you could be the faggot who thinks that they can accurately judge people's personalities based on what deck they play.

Them peoples irk me.


Or you could be the faggot who is irked by people who make fun of other people for playing Valakut.

Btw, I'm gonna guess at your identity and say either CoolCreep or R4nd0m


Quote:
Cause i'm a douche who wants to win


If you already have the cards, then it's probably not a bad way to go, but I think the smart investment right now, if you were going to spend the money, is to play something that's heavier on the mirrodin side.


Wow you're a grumpy fuck. And I'm tugachampion, clearly.

And btw, saying what kind of person someone is based on what their deck choice is makes you a complete failure, among other things.

Discuss.
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Bob_A_Wilson



Joined: 25 Mar 2010
Posts: 241

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Wow you're a grumpy fuck. And I'm tugachampion, clearly.

And btw, saying what kind of person someone is based on what their deck choice is makes you a complete failure, among other things.

Discuss.


Hmm, smells more like Sebas...

Anywho, we could continue this circle-jerk all day, but let's both just agree that Valakut is by far the best deck in the current meta.
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gypsy



Joined: 15 Jun 2007
Posts: 1671

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ya valakut is the best deck it only loses to the deck that won the pro tour Rolling Eyes
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