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Elspeth and Indestructible



 
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MTGmanLA



Joined: 31 Dec 1969
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:56 am    Post subject: Elspeth and Indestructible Reply with quote

There was almost a fight at my FNM over this situation so I figure I would ask here since I don't know the correct ruling either.

Player A has Elves out with Eldrazi Monument. Player B has Elspeth Tirel with 6 counters on it. If the Elspeth player uses the ultimate, does only the monument get destroyed and the elves stay cause they had indestructible from Monument or does everything go boom (cept elspeth, lands, tokens) ?
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FiReBLT



Joined: 31 Dec 2004
Posts: 297

PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The creatures will all live. Monument dies.

The 'destroy' effect from Elspeth hits everything at once. At the time it resolves, all of the Monument player's creatures have 'indestructible' so are not destroyed.

Unlike damage, 'destroy' effects are instantaneous and do not linger until the end of turn.

So, once the ability has finished resolving, Monument is put in the graveyard, the creatures lose 'indestructible' and anything other than creatures hit by Elspeth are also killed off.
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DonDiggy



Joined: 16 Mar 2010
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monument has a static Ability that makes Creatures indestructible. Elspeths activated Ability wants to destroy Monument+Elves...the point is:

Elspeth destroys all permanents at the same time. The Monument is put into graveyard after the Ability has resolved. So when the Ability resolves, the Elves are still indestructible. In simple words: Your Elves lose their indestructibility right after Elspeth did her job, a little too late Wink
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magicman85



Joined: 22 Aug 2009
Posts: 555

PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3rd opinion, monument dies, everything that was indestructible at the time of cast lives.
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