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just2fierce



Joined: 03 Mar 2007
Posts: 46

PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:48 am    Post subject: MBC Reply with quote

4 Tectonic Edge
17 Swamp
4 Marsh Flats


4 Dark Tutelage
4 Crystal Ball
4 Tendrils of Corruption
2 Mind Sludge
2 Corrupt
2 Vendetta
2 Consuming Vapors
2 Inquistion of Kozilek
2 Liliana Vess
1 Consume the Meek

4 Gatekeeper of Malakir
2 Grave Titan
2 Abyssal Perscecutor
2 Malakir Bloodwitch

sb
4 Deathmark
3 vampire Hexmage
1 Corrupt
1 Mind Sludge
1 Consume the Meek
2 Infest
2 Duress
1 Malakir Bloodwitch



thoughts?
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just2fierce



Joined: 03 Mar 2007
Posts: 46

PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sign in blood is in NO way better than Tutelage+crystal ball......seriously....it is like bob+top all over again!

I originally had 3 sludge but the 2 lilly let you basically have 4 of every 2 of spell....just get what you need at the moment and you're good! Vendetta is very solid vs the aggro rush of naya, mythic and RDW.....as is the inquisition....tendrils is too good not to play until it rotates! So might as well!
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InWaking



Joined: 30 Jun 2009
Posts: 137

PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand you really want dark tutelage to be good but it's really not, Bob was good because it came out second turn and aggrod, to use tutelage for what you want and to stay out of aggro demise you have to wait until a crystal ball is in play. So essentially you're waiting until 4th turn to have them both out. Phyrexian arena was a much better card than tutelage and that never really saw play... think about it. Just because it's a new shiny toy doesn't mean you have to like it.

Liliana is good as a 1 of, I would replace the other one with Sorin.
I am not really seeing a good reason to have 4 deathmarks in sideboard. maybe cutting those down 1 or 2 would prove to be good.

I however am for the Vendetta idea, Mono red is popular and it can take out ball lightning if need be or trick someone into overextending their burn when you only have one black untapped so you vendetta their kiln fiend? hmmm I dunno about vendetta anymore..

Good start, I probably would work a man land or two in there.
(Deaded Statuary, or Gargoyle caste thing)
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P_P4E



Joined: 31 Aug 2004
Posts: 579

PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd run 3/4 diabolic tutor, 1x grave titan, 1x dark tutilidge,

No malakir bloodwitch. Been reported as not good by a few people.

I agree about Sorin. Must include at least x1

Duress is probably better than inquisition in this format. Ramp is actually a hard matchup for me, and duress gets a few more targets against that. Plus it gets all plainswalkers

I like pithing needle in there in some capacity. Stopping jace/man lands seems to be worth it.

no real reason to run vendetta over doom blade.

Tendrils is a must include until it rotates out. Best card against aggro you have.

So my changes would be...

-3 tutelidge
-2 vendetta
-2 kozilek
-1 liliana
-1grave titan
-2 bloodwitch

+1 mind sludge
+3 duress
+3 diabolic tutor
+3 doom blade
+1 sorin

sb would be...
4 deathmark
3 pithing needle/hexmage (need testing with both)
1 duress
2 inquisition of kozilek
1 mind sludge
2 all is dust
1x brittel effigy
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gypsy



Joined: 15 Jun 2007
Posts: 1671

PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

phyrexian arena saw a lot of play wtf are u guys talking about
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InWaking



Joined: 30 Jun 2009
Posts: 137

PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gypsy wrote:
phyrexian arena saw a lot of play wtf are u guys talking about


wtf are you talking about? i've been playing magic for over 10 years and have never seen it played competitively since apocalypse was in t2.
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just2fierce



Joined: 03 Mar 2007
Posts: 46

PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guess none of you guys ever played against orzhov control with 4 arena when Rav block was T2, or mono-black control when Kamigawa block was T2, or SOLAR FLARE, or RWB with firemane, or MACHINEHEAD.....seriously, arena has always been Tier 1......
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gypsy



Joined: 15 Jun 2007
Posts: 1671

PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

InWaking wrote:
gypsy wrote:
phyrexian arena saw a lot of play wtf are u guys talking about


wtf are you talking about? i've been playing magic for over 10 years and have never seen it played competitively since apocalypse was in t2.


i think the worst thing about your comment is that arena was played way more when it was reprinted then when it was in apocalypse where it saw very little play
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gypsy



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its not my deck....
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Ansore



Joined: 27 Mar 2010
Posts: 34

PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:47 pm    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

I say: 4 Consuming Vapors is pretty good for you. Don't use just 2...
You can kill persecutor with it and gain life and win the game, or you can just kill his creatures and gain life
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OldBear



Joined: 12 Apr 2005
Posts: 1840

PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The GBW beachouse deck from the pro tour where criag jones top decked the lightning helix played arena, it was good.
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just2fierce



Joined: 03 Mar 2007
Posts: 46

PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YMMV but the bloodwitch is staying as it is a house in my meta where blue/white is very heavy.....
out the persecutor actually and I cut the tutelage/crystall ball to 3 each and added 2 diabolic tutor so now the Main is this

4 Tectonic Edge
19 Swamp
2 Dread Sanctuary


3 Dark Tutelage
3 Crystal Ball
4 Tendrils of Corruption
2 Mind Sludge
2 Corrupt
2 Vendetta
2 Consuming Vapors
2 Inquistion of Kozilek
2 Liliana Vess
1 Sorin
2 Diabolic Tutor
1 Consume Spirit
1 Consume the Meek

4 Gatekeeper of Malakir
2 Grave Titan
2 Malakir Bloodwitch

sb
3 Deathmark
3 vampire Hexmage
1 Corrupt
1 Mind Sludge
1 Sadistic Sacrament
2 Infest
2 Duress
2 Brittle Effigy
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