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RB discard (With M11)



 
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lovehater



Joined: 18 Apr 2010
Posts: 14

PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 5:54 am    Post subject: RB discard (With M11) Reply with quote

Well im not a great deckbuilder but i came with this idea :



// Lands
6 [IN] Swamp (1)
2 [ON] Mountain (4)
4 [WWK] Lavaclaw Reaches
4 [ZEN] Akoum Refuge
4 [M11] Dragonskull Summit

// Creatures
4 [M11] Liliana's Specter
4 [M11] Grave Titan

// Spells
4 [M11] Doom Blade
4 [M11] Lightning Bolt
4 [M11] Sign in Blood
4 [MPR] Terminate
4 [M11] Liliana's Caress
4 [ST] Mind Rot
4 [M11] Duress
4 [ALA] Blightning

// Sideboard
SB: 4 [ZEN] Vampire Hexmage
SB: 3 [M11] Leyline of the Void
SB: 4 [WWK] Smother
SB: 4 [ROE] Inquisition of Kozilek

Deck strategy is preety easy , keep your opponents field/hand controlled from the start while dealing damage with blights/caress and finish with titan or manland.

Sb choices:

Hexmage --> Superfriends / uw control
Leyline ---> Vengevine/ Eldrazi
Smother ---> Jund/ any deck that runs black making doom blades dead cards
inquisition ---> Jund / decks with few non creature cards (usually replaces duress)


I havent tested a lot yet but vs control decks this seems rly consistent since you completely ruin them by rushing their hand down.
Jund seems to be a problem but like 60/40 for jund Because a thrinax or a leech can screw me specially g1 when i only have doom blades on hand =P
Havent tested vs mythic but i guess its a bad matchup also...
RDW is also a easy matchup because it lacks burst after u take their hand down.


Constructive comments apreciated
I really think sb needs a touch
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InWaking



Joined: 30 Jun 2009
Posts: 137

PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am going to give you unorthodox advice but it would be very interesting to me if you made these changes. Add Temple bell, and replace duress with Inquisition of Kozelik in maindeck, you'll want to get rid of early aggro with it much more than planeswalkers or anything as you can probably mindrot them later.
"Temple Bell?!?!" you may be asking yourself, and I say yes the reason being with temple bell on your turn you can have them draw a card and discard a card when they've gotten down to no cards because of the prior discard spells.
The problem with hand control is once they have no cards in hand you are now holing hand disruption for a whole lot of nothing. I dunno it could be worth trying.
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lovehater



Joined: 18 Apr 2010
Posts: 14

PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ye happened me a few times already , maybe ill add 1.
Theres a bad thing on that... They can draw instants and have mana open to play it X=
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InWaking



Joined: 30 Jun 2009
Posts: 137

PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Believe me when I say if they draw instants, the instant would be played in response to your discard anyways and in the long run wouldn't be that big of a deal for you.
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InWaking



Joined: 30 Jun 2009
Posts: 137

PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I decided to make some changes to your list.
It needs more lands though the set I have played (yes only one) I won and had no problems with only 20 lands.
// Lands
6 [IN] Swamp (1)
2 [ON] Mountain (4)
4 [WWK] Lavaclaw Reaches
4 [ZEN] Akoum Refuge
4 [M11] Dragonskull Summit

// Creatures
4 [M11] Liliana's Specter
3 [M11] Grave Titan
4 [M11] Nantuko Shade

// Spells
4 [M11] Lightning Bolt
2 [M11] Sign in Blood
4 [ALA] Blightning
4 [ROE] Inquisition of Kozilek
2 [M11] Liliana's Caress
3 [M11] Temple Bell
4 [M11] Mind Rot
2 [ARB] Bituminous Blast
4 [ARB] Terminate

// Sideboard
SB: 4 [ZEN] Vampire Hexmage
SB: 3 [M11] Leyline of the Void
SB: 4 [WWK] Smother
SB: 4 [M10] Duress

the set was against a monoblack, so that may not be saying much. The Temple Bell at the end of their turn and during my turn into blightning was awesome with my lilianas caress I cascaded into the turn before.
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lovehater



Joined: 18 Apr 2010
Posts: 14

PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To have it cascaded means ur already on turn 5 , u wud have lost vs mythic already xD

i rly prefer t1 inquisiton/duress t2 caress t3 blight

Bituminous is too slow for the deck intentions and cascading to mind rot when opp has no hand in late game can suck...
Also only 2 sign in blood? that helps alot to have more card adv
I also think 3 bells are too much
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Trizzy60



Joined: 04 Oct 2004
Posts: 114

PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

needs more tutalege
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Sigil



Joined: 07 Oct 2009
Posts: 92

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obstinate Baloth says hello.
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