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Roe Roe Roe 8-4 draft No6.



 
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OldBear



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Posts: 1840

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:02 am    Post subject: Roe Roe Roe 8-4 draft No6. Reply with quote

Back with another 8-4 I won I've been dying to put this draft up since the moemnt i finished it, probably the best roe draft i have ever drafted, reminds me of the slow grinding control decks I use to love back when i played standard.

Event #: 1360727
Time: 6/26/2010 3:25:31 PM
Players:
--> ElementalMox
niknak_007
miyajimon
stenlund
yukihuru
oza
4810columbia
nkirbit

------ ROE ------

Pack 1 pick 1:
Spawning Breath
Frostwind Invoker
Evolving Wilds
Emrakul's Hatcher
Eel Umbra
Boar Umbra
--> Induce Despair
Surreal Memoir
Zof Shade
Caravan Escort
Puncturing Light
Soulbound Guardians
Daggerback Basilisk
Echo Mage
Island

The induce depsair is a tier above emrakuls hatcher and boar umbra only really fits into a small deck range, echo mage im not entirely sure how to evaluate but i do know hes not as good as induce despair.

Pack 1 pick 2:
Death Cultist
Rage Nimbus
Shrivel
Bloodrite Invoker
Haze Frog
Raid Bombardment
Skittering Invasion
Kiln Fiend
Gravity Well
--> Vendetta
Repel the Darkness
Emerge Unscathed
Demystify
Mountain

This is really a no brainer after our first pick, its the best card in the pack and on colour

Pack 1 pick 3:
Demonic Appetite
Nest Invader
Guard Duty
Aura Gnarlid
Nighthaze
Living Destiny
Mnemonic Wall
Battle-Rattle Shaman
Lavafume Invoker
Reality Spasm
--> Rapacious One
Virulent Swipe
Swamp

Here the pick is between the ogre and rapacious one, I happen to think both are fine picks, the rapacious one was my choice

Pack 1 pick 4:
Ancient Stirrings
Champion's Drake
Near-Death Experience
Living Destiny
Dreamstone Hedron
Survival Cache
Kor Line-Slinger
Perish the Thought
Escaped Null
Fissure Vent
--> Prophetic Prism
Plains

I already know people are going to say i should have took the dreamstone hedron here but i much perefer prism.

Pack 1 pick 5:
Lay Bare
Vent Sentinel
Dread Drone
--> Narcolepsy
Null Champion
Reality Spasm
Kiln Fiend
Essence Feed (FOIL)
Emerge Unscathed
Hyena Umbra
Plains

Wow 5th pick narcolsepsy, is a real gift, that mcuh easier to splash thanks to prism

Pack 1 pick 6:
Goblin Tunneler
Gloomhunter
Bramblesnap
Growth Spasm
Nema Siltlurker
--> Ulamog's Crusher
Shared Discovery
Distortion Strike
Leaf Arrow
Island

Very easy pick made even more so by what i have already the crusher is a notch above anything else in the pack and just a great win condition.

Pack 1 pick 7:
Valakut Fireboar
Living Destiny
Battle Rampart
Suffer the Past
Reinforced Bulwark
Glory Seeker
--> Essence Feed
Bloodthrone Vampire
Forest

Essence feed is a card I am more a fan of than most, I find the life swing plus tokens it gives are both very often relevant.

Pack 1 pick 8:
Crab Umbra
Might of the Masses
Stomper Cub
See Beyond
Glory Seeker
Ikiral Outrider
--> Bloodthrone Vampire
Swamp

I think here i should have took the see beyond perhasp, vampire still seems okay

Pack 1 pick 9:
Spawning Breath
--> Surreal Memoir
Zof Shade
Puncturing Light
Soulbound Guardians
Daggerback Basilisk
Island

I already have 2 premium pieces of removal and am most likely grixis which gives me the most good targets for memoir

Pack 1 pick 10:
Death Cultist
Haze Frog
Raid Bombardment
--> Skittering Invasion
Gravity Well
Mountain

Keeping the token plan option open

Pack 1 pick 11:
Demonic Appetite
--> Nighthaze
Living Destiny
Reality Spasm
Swamp

Pack 1 pick 12:
Living Destiny
--> Perish the Thought
Fissure Vent
Plains

Strong board card

Pack 1 pick 13:
--> Null Champion
Essence Feed (FOIL)
Plains

Wow very late null champion as mcuh as i do not rate the card by no means is it a 13th pick

Pack 1 pick 14:
--> Shared Discovery
Island

If we end up goign the token route we could play this as well.

Pack 1 pick 15:
--> Forest

------ ROE ------

Pack 2 pick 1:
Death Cultist
Inquisition of Kozilek
Naturalize
World at War
Deprive
Shrivel
Raid Bombardment
--> Ulamog's Crusher
Warmonger's Chariot
Nirkana Cutthroat
Bala Ged Scorpion
Merfolk Observer
Fleeting Distraction
Demystify
Mountain

Crusher is a card Im very fond of and not upset to pick first, deprive and scorpion are the next best picks both which are underwhelming

Pack 2 pick 2:
Time of Heroes
Frostwind Invoker
Nighthaze
Forked Bolt
Kor Line-Slinger
Battle Rampart
See Beyond
Guard Gomazoa
--> Heat Ray
Eland Umbra
Totem-Guide Hartebeest
Ikiral Outrider
Kozilek's Predator
Island

Heat ray is better than forked bolt in this format as being able to hit a creature for 8 or more is often needed and heta ray can do that.

Pack 2 pick 3:
Gloomhunter
--> Mnemonic Wall
Grotag Siege-Runner
Cadaver Imp
Cadaver Imp (FOIL)
Caravan Escort
Haze Frog
Snake Umbra
Enatu Golem
Sea Gate Oracle
Knight of Cliffhaven
Eldrazi Temple
Forest

The wall with the 3 choice removal spells i have already is a fairly easy pick here

Pack 2 pick 4:
Spawning Breath
Lay Bare
--> Induce Despair
Zof Shade
Wall of Omens
Dawnglare Invoker
Null Champion
Pawn of Ulamog
Kiln Fiend
Daggerback Basilisk
It That Betrays
Forest

This deck is starting to look very very strong, premimum removal and ways to get that back plus, strong finishers already

Pack 2 pick 5:
Goblin Tunneler
Guard Duty
Grotag Siege-Runner
Cadaver Imp
Luminous Wake
Hand of Emrakul
Daggerback Basilisk
--> Hada Spy Patrol
Ondu Giant
Distortion Strike
Island

Looking at this pick now i think with the 2 crushers the cadvear imp could well be a legitmate pick over the spy patrol another card im not a huge fan of, but i took it anyway.

Pack 2 pick 6:
Demonic Appetite
--> Tajuru Preserver (FOIL)
Contaminated Ground
Soulbound Guardians
Nema Siltlurker
Shared Discovery
Harmless Assault
Merfolk Observer
Leaf Arrow
Mountain

Disapointing pack, hated the foil rare as i already have 2 crushers it makes less impressive

Pack 2 pick 7:
Gloomhunter
Grotag Siege-Runner
--> Cadaver Imp
Wall of Omens
Prey's Vengeance
Haze Frog
Daggerback Basilisk
Not of This World
Plains

The imp means my big mean fatties will be coming back to annihlate my opponent time and time again

Pack 2 pick 8:
Jwari Scuttler
Stalwart Shield-Bearers
--> Suffer the Past
Nema Siltlurker
Glory Seeker
Fissure Vent
Merfolk Observer
Forest

Pack 2 pick 9:
Death Cultist
Inquisition of Kozilek
Naturalize
--> Shrivel
Raid Bombardment
Fleeting Distraction
Mountain

Board card

Pack 2 pick 10:
--> Nighthaze
Kor Line-Slinger
Battle Rampart
Eland Umbra
Ikiral Outrider
Island

Pack 2 pick 11:
Gloomhunter
--> Cadaver Imp
Haze Frog
Enatu Golem
Forest

Another imp and the amount of card advantage in this deck is getting absurd

Pack 2 pick 12:
Lay Bare
Zof Shade
--> It That Betrays
Forest

Pack 2 pick 13:
--> Luminous Wake
Hand of Emrakul
Island

Pack 2 pick 14:
--> Demonic Appetite
Mountain

Pack 2 pick 15:
--> Plains

------ ROE ------

Pack 3 pick 1:
Naturalize
Irresistible Prey
Eel Umbra
Grotag Siege-Runner
Soul's Attendant
Makindi Griffin
Overgrown Battlement
Reinforced Bulwark
Oust
--> Nirkana Cutthroat
Essence Feed
Bala Ged Scorpion
Lagac Lizard
Plains
Mortician Beetle

Disapponinting pack for us, the cutthroat is a powerfull but mana intensive card and edges out the scorpion

Pack 3 pick 2:
--> Mnemonic Wall
Cadaver Imp
Luminous Wake
Caravan Escort
Snake Umbra
Overgrown Battlement
Lavafume Invoker
Brood Birthing
Broodwarden
Null Champion
Thought Gorger
Repel the Darkness
Sea Gate Oracle
Island

Easy pick with all th premium removal i already have.

Pack 3 pick 3:
Death Cultist
Nest Invader
Curse of Wizardry
Magmaw
Explosive Revelation
Shrivel
Wrap in Flames
Aura Finesse
Enatu Golem
Goblin Arsonist
--> Bala Ged Scorpion
Mountain
Leaf Arrow

Great vs alot of the powerfull blue cards cryptologist wavewatcher etc

Pack 3 pick 4:
Vent Sentinel
Ogre's Cleaver
Deprive
Sporecap Spider
Stomper Cub
Soulsurge Elemental
--> See Beyond
Fissure Vent
Merfolk Observer
Totem-Guide Hartebeest
Kozilek's Predator
Swamp

I think my mana requirements can prob not fit deprive but sey bond seems like a good addition to the very powerfull controlling deck being constructed.

Pack 3 pick 5:
Umbra Mystic
Gloomhunter
Pennon Blade
Sporecap Spider
Kor Line-Slinger
Haze Frog
Regress
Goblin Arsonist
Runed Servitor
--> Prophetic Prism
Plains

Very happy to pick up another of these as it improves my mana so much

Pack 3 pick 6:
Demonic Appetite
Naturalize
Splinter Twin
--> Vent Sentinel
Stomper Cub
See Beyond
Reality Spasm
Goblin Arsonist
Glory Seeker
Plains

I do not like splinter twin even though i do have alot of cip creatures, whilst the sentinal could give me another way of winning.

Pack 3 pick 7:
Aura Gnarlid
--> Mnemonic Wall
Battle-Rattle Shaman
Pennon Blade
Sporecap Spider
Lavafume Invoker
Fissure Vent
Merfolk Observer
Plains

Wow this really pushes this deck over the top

Pack 3 pick 8:
Jwari Scuttler
Stalwart Shield-Bearers
--> Wrap in Flames
Brood Birthing
Essence Feed
Shared Discovery
Affa Guard Hound
Mountain

Also very happy to see on of these great vs token decks

Pack 3 pick 9:
Naturalize
Irresistible Prey
Eel Umbra
Grotag Siege-Runner
Reinforced Bulwark
--> Bala Ged Scorpion
Plains

Wow the scorpion wheeling is nice did not expect that

Pack 3 pick 10:
Luminous Wake
Snake Umbra
--> Overgrown Battlement
Brood Birthing
Null Champion
Island

This should not be hear

Pack 3 pick 11:
Death Cultist
Curse of Wizardry
Enatu Golem
--> Goblin Arsonist
Mountain

Pack 3 pick 12:
--> Vent Sentinel
Fissure Vent
Merfolk Observer
Swamp

Pack 3 pick 13:
--> Pennon Blade
Haze Frog
Plains

Pack 3 pick 14:
--> Glory Seeker
Plains

No idea what happened to last pick its not recorded for some reason im sure no one cares though.

1 vendetta
2 prophetic prism
1 see beyond
1 narcolepsy
1 null champion
2 induce depair
2 cadaver imp
1 nirkana cutthroat
1 bala ged scorpion
1 vent sentinal
1 surreal memoir
3 memnomic wall
1 essence feed
1 rapacious one
2 ulamogs crusher
1 heat ray
5 island
9 swamp
4 mountain

Game were ages ago so sorry not match covergae, they were also all extremly long all 2-0 and fairly inevitable outcome with this deck.

Feedback appreciated.
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dv8r



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Posts: 239

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

p1p3
pick is very clearly between wall and rapacious one.... archetype preference here, wall wins for me, rapacious one is fine

p1p4
this pick makes me want to hit you with a stick Smile

p2p5
would take imp, spy patrol is just fine too

p3p5
prism vs regress is very close... I'd probably take prism here too though

seems a solid draft, agree with most of what you say... play with hedron more
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OldBear



Joined: 12 Apr 2005
Posts: 1840

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah yeah I meant wall, i regulary refer to rapacios one as an ogre lol, so was in fact saying the same card twice.

On Hedron I played with it loads at the start of the format it disappointed. People said it was good, I tried it again, it disapointed again.
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Spyx



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Posts: 1188

PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would take nest invader p1p3. Probably a personal thing as i'm a big fan of GB/x decks (usually splashing red)
Booster 3 would have been sick for that deck with trips battlement and predator.
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