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One deck. Two choices. Which one?


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Kamahl95



Joined: 08 Sep 2009
Posts: 39

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:05 pm    Post subject: One deck. Two choices. Which one? Reply with quote

U/W Control, as piloted by Patrick Chapin

1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
4 Cancel
1 Celestial Purge
2 Essence Scatter
2 Flashfreeze
1 Negate
1 Path to Exile
3 Day of Judgment
2 Martial Coup
2 Mind Spring
4 Treasure Hunt
3 Oblivion Ring
4 Everflowing Chalice
2 Arid Mesa
4 Celestial Colonnade
4 Glacial Fortress
4 Halimar Depths
3 Island
4 Plains
1 Scalding Tarn
4 Tectonic Edge
4 Jace, the Mind Sculptor

Sideboard:
3 Baneslayer Angel
3 Kor Firewalker
1 Perimeter Captain
1 Essence Scatter
2 Flashfreeze
2 Negate
1 Mind Control
1 Plains
1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant


U/W Control as piloted by Brian Kibler

2 Baneslayer Angel
3 Knight of the White Orchid
4 Path to Exile
3 Day of Judgment
4 Martial Coup
4 Mind Spring
2 Oblivion Ring
4 Spreading Seas
4 Everflowing Chalice
4 Fieldmist Borderpost
4 Celestial Colonnade
4 Glacial Fortress
6 Island
6 Plains
1 Tectonic Edge
3 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2 Elspeth, Knight-Errant

Sideboard:
3 Celestial Purge
4 Flashfreeze
4 Negate
1 Day of Judgment
1 Oblivion Ring
2 Baneslayer Angel

Which one would you play in the current metagame and why?
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gypsy



Joined: 15 Jun 2007
Posts: 1671

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

which ever one your more confortable with
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gypsy



Joined: 15 Jun 2007
Posts: 1671

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

which ever one your more confortable and kiblers list isnt that good needs tweaking
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McBallin



Joined: 16 Feb 2010
Posts: 15

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is this a question? obviously chapins list
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Kamahl95



Joined: 08 Sep 2009
Posts: 39

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why? what does chapin's list do that kibler's doesn't?

i just want to be sure of what deck to play.
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P_P4E



Joined: 31 Aug 2004
Posts: 579

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kamahl95 wrote:
why? what does chapin's list do that kibler's doesn't?

i just want to be sure of what deck to play.


Why on earth would you play UW control without counterspells?

4 jace is better than 3.

Change chapin's sideboard and run that deck.
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gypsy



Joined: 15 Jun 2007
Posts: 1671

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

P_P4E wrote:
Kamahl95 wrote:
why? what does chapin's list do that kibler's doesn't?

i just want to be sure of what deck to play.


Why on earth would you play UW control without counterspells?

4 jace is better than 3.

Change chapin's sideboard and run that deck.


because counterspells arent that good right now, ur cancels and negates dont do much vs putrid leech
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Kamahl95



Joined: 08 Sep 2009
Posts: 39

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was thinking the same thing. i need a deck that can beat:

Jund
Naya
UW Control

that's most of my metagame. which of the two is best against these decks?
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McBallin



Joined: 16 Feb 2010
Posts: 15

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isnt everyone looking for a deck that can beat jund naya and uw control? lol wow
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Kamahl95



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm just asking which one of these two decks is best against those matchups.
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gypsy



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Posts: 1671

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

play an updated version of the kibler/sam black version
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Kamahl95



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok. i'll try it out.

the deck had 4 baneslayers, but decided to take 2 of them out for 2 elspeths.

is this right?
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Insom



Joined: 19 Dec 2008
Posts: 433

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't play BSA main (I like 7 planeswalkers instead) but the ramp list is definitely worth a look. If you don't mind sacrificing other matchups for a stronger game against mindrange go for it.
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InWaking



Joined: 30 Jun 2009
Posts: 137

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not a fan of how vulnirable Chapins list is. I played it in two FNMs got second in one and failed miserably in the other. I loved the Kibler list that's the net deck that won the FNM I lost. Although to be honest at the time I didn't know it was Kiblers list I thought the guy made awesome inovative changes to the Chapin list. Honestly my only insight into Chapin list is play Sphinx of Jwar isle. May sound dumb but getting sphinx out turn 4 is highly possible and ruins all decks days with the exception of Vampires. Which if I may had is a horrible match up for Chapins list. Hexmages have been used to kill my chalices at the time I was thinking to myself "wow that's dumb" until I lost the games because of it.
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Spyx



Joined: 31 Oct 2004
Posts: 1188

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UWr control isn't viable anymore? Ajani Vengeant seems pretty awesome against midrange and control, and double negative is better then cancel against jund. You also get to run lightning bolt which is great vs putrid leech, vampires and naya.

I don't play standard though, so i'm probably missing something.
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