Poll question

Pilon · Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 285

Answer my poll Very Happy

CMA-Flippi · Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:09 am Post subject:

I wasn't confused before I read. Wink

Unlikely, you can't edit the wrong answers out.
Confused

Dragon_Lady · Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 225

IMO, this card is the most confusing card in all of MTG. I barely understand it AFTER reading about it, but since I will probably never see it played IRL, I'm not too worried about it.

The main thing I understand about Chains is that if it's in play, playing draw spells is a bad thing. ^^

ant900 · Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 2477 Location: somewhere

try reading the printed text of ice cauldron if you want a confusing card

Steel · Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 18

http://www.starcitygames.com/pages/judgefinder.php?keywords=Chains%20of%20Mephistopheles

Read that and you'll understand the card. If you don't understand after reading that carefully, then you're just plain stupid.

ElvishGod · Joined: 12 May 2005 Posts: 2924

Without reading about it...

I'm guessing that if you would draw a card after the first, you discard your hand, then put the top card of your library into your graveyard.

OK, I was wrong. My reasoning was: If you would draw a card, discard a card INSTEAD. If you discard a card, draw a card. I assumed that it had separate abilities, not just one.

To put it simple to those of small minds, instead of drawing a card you discard one. If you successfully discard a card, you may draw a card. If you are unable to discard a card, you mill the top card of your deck.

ElvishGod · Joined: 12 May 2005 Posts: 2924

I'll explain for two Chains...

If you would draw, a first Chains triggers. You discard, if you successfully do, you WOULD draw. BUT, this draw is replaced by the second Chains, causing you to discard again. If you are successful, you draw.

Steel · Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 18

Ok, Chains is a replacement effect. Let me explain in simple terms.

Example: Peek

Peek - Instant
U
Look at target player's hand.
Draw a card.

Now when Chains is active, the replacement takes effect and Peek would look like this:

Peek - Instant
U
Look at target player's hand.
"Discard a card, then draw a card. If you cannot discard a card, put the top card of your deck into the grave"

Basically with Chains, anytime a player draws a card (besides the DRAW PHASE draw) they have to discard a card from their hand FIRST, then draw. If they can't discard a card (like if their hand is empty), the card they WOULD draw is put into the grave from the deck.

Get it?

DoItFaster · Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 1129 Location: California

That card could be on the list of 'Worst Wording Ever'.

Baryonyx · Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 1020 Location: Illinois

All you have to do is read it carfully

quidam · Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Posts: 196

Vodka_drink · Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 1130 Location: Brampton O

chains plus anvil = lock....

bertrand · Joined: 08 Sep 2005 Posts: 8

I hate CHains.. but the past paragraph in steel's post cleared it up for me.. thanks.

Now to figure out wtf Takklemaggot does..

darkace9 · Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 8

You know that the Chains card would be so much easier to understand if they made it in one sentence.

If a player would draw a card except the first one he or she draws in a draw step, that player discards a card from his or her hand and then draws a card, or puts the top card of his or her library into his or her graveyard if he or she couldn't discard a card instead.

MarkTwainIII · Joined: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 95

thats pretty much what it says...