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Parker2038
Joined: 20 Apr 2009
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| sps62487 wrote: | | angel songs or safe passage ??? that would not be a bad idea especially if someone swings big or with lots of creatures |
Safe passage is maybe a good idea... for sideboard...
I have 5 spot removal and 4 mass removal. If I play against too aggro decks I put them in. |
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Shaz
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:46 am Post subject: |
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I've played the crap out of these decks and that is very rarely how it goes. Maybe if you get your perfect draw it does, but how often does that happen?
I personally don't like Tome Scour, and the crab is so-so. This is the list I've been playing recently, and its not bad, but it just straight up loses to a good RDW or the "new" Boros deck:
// Lands
4 [ALA] Arcane Sanctum
4 [ZEN] Marsh Flats
2 [M10] Drowned Catacomb
4 [M10] Glacial Fortress
4 [9E] Plains (1)
2 [ZEN] Sejiri Refuge
3 [BD] Island (3)
1 [10E] Swamp (3)
// Spells
4 [CFX] Path to Exile
4 [ZEN] Day of Judgment
4 [B] Howling Mine
4 [ZEN] Archive Trap
4 [ARB] Mind Funeral
2 [M10] Haunting Echoes
3 [SOK] Twincast
3 [DD2] Jace Beleren
4 [M10] Safe Passage / Wall of Denial (if you prefer)
4 [ALA] Angelsong / Doom Blade (or other spot removal if you prefer)
Or here's a list if you like the crab:
// Lands
4 [M10] Glacial Fortress
3 [BD] Island (3)
4 [9E] Plains (1)
4 [ZEN] Marsh Flats
1 [10E] Swamp (3)
2 [M10] Drowned Catacomb
4 [ALA] Arcane Sanctum
// Creatures
4 [ZEN] Hedron Crab
// Spells
4 [DD2] Jace Beleren
4 [9E] Howling Mine
4 [ZEN] Archive Trap
4 [ZEN] Day of Judgment
4 [M10] Safe Passage
4 [CFX] Path to Exile
4 [ALA] Angelsong
2 [M10] Haunting Echoes
4 [ARB] Mind Funeral |
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Parker2038
Joined: 20 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:56 am Post subject: |
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| Shaz wrote: | I've played the crap out of these decks and that is very rarely how it goes. Maybe if you get your perfect draw it does, but how often does that happen?
I personally don't like Tome Scour, and the crab is so-so. This is the list I've been playing recently, and its not bad, but it just straight up loses to a good RDW or the "new" Boros deck. |
If you only play 4 fetch is normal that you dont like the crab...
(I play 12! Mill 6 per fetch! I play fetch 2 times in each 3 turns!)
I dont like to splash black. The only black card I wanted to play is Mind Funeral and I dont know if is wort the splash...
I've also wanted to splash red for lightning bolt(removal) and double negative(sideboard maybe)...
But in the end I didnt make any splash for mana base improvement.
Do you think splashing those cards is wort a worse mana base? |
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Shaz
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:01 am Post subject: |
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I've never run into mana issues, at least not any more often than ANY deck does. I like the mind funeral alot, it is FAR better than scour, and many times haunting echoes just wins games by itself. I would say the average mind funeral hits for more than 10.
You could also take out one of the fog effects for doomblade if your meta is vamp lite. |
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Parker2038
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| Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:12 am Post subject: |
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| Shaz wrote: | | I've never run into mana issues, at least not any more often than ANY deck does. |
But if you play a better mana mase you can have mana issues far less than any other deck... |
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Parker2038
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| Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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I changed the deck to rWU. It seems to be better.
Any comments or playtesting you want to share? |
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Parker2038
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| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:10 am Post subject: |
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 UPDATE:
-sideboard is now complete
-commented sideboard choices
-more playtest comments
-decklist updated
Last edited by Parker2038 on Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:33 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Parker2038
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| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:32 am Post subject: |
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 QUESTION:
"Should I move from red to black, stay with red or remove red and play just white/blue???" |
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Super_Prep
Joined: 04 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Crab gives you crabs but scute mob gives you wins. Needs more scute mob to be competitive. |
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Parker2038
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| Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| can someone help instead of leaving non-helping comments? please? |
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xSNACKSx
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| Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:55 am Post subject: |
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You're only getting non-helping comments because you posted a silly ass deck. We've all played against this deck at FNM like a month ago and it sucked then and still sucks. Mill is solely a casual deck not competitive. Besides even if Mill did ever get popular everyone splashes blue and boards quest of ancient secret, tight a card that completely crushes your deck for 1 mana. Seems like a good choice.
And for anyone that plays Mill on MWS please stop. Haunting echoes = 10 minutes of labor. We all just leave and you're left with an unresolved game. |
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jonproject
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| Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Crab gives you crabs but scute mob gives you wins. Needs more scute mob to be competitive. |
WIN!
| Quote: | You're only getting non-helping comments because you posted a silly ass deck. We've all played against this deck at FNM like a month ago and it sucked then and still sucks. Mill is solely a casual deck not competitive. Besides even if Mill did ever get popular everyone splashes blue and boards quest of ancient secret, tight a card that completely crushes your deck for 1 mana. Seems like a good choice.
And for anyone that plays Mill on MWS please stop. Haunting echoes = 10 minutes of labor. We all just leave and you're left with an unresolved game. |
what he said.
There used to be a guy at our local store that NEEDED to play mill, regardless of its actual playability. So for the duration of Time Spiral's legality in Standard, everyone in the store played one Gaea's Blessing board. Good times. |
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Parker2038
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| Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| I dont want it to be popular. I know that cards like the quest can easily stop my deck... I want to improve it so I can surprise my opponents and steal games... |
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Parker2038
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| Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | There used to be a guy at our local store that NEEDED to play mill, regardless of its actual playability. So for the duration of Time Spiral's legality in Standard, everyone in the store played one Gaea's Blessing board. Good times. |
I'm something like that,but in the store I play everyone knows that and they dont bother in get side against me. sometimes I lose other times I win, just like any other deck... |
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jonproject
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| Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| I hear decks either win or lose. Your opponents aren't side boarding against you because there isn't anything in the way of slow control right now, which mill preys on. During Time Spiral standard, decks like Dralnu Teachings Control, Solar Flare and Tron dominated the format, which is why I referenced said standard environment. |
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