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Meddling Mage



 
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Pillsburry



Joined: 17 Oct 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:35 pm    Post subject: Meddling Mage Reply with quote

When Meddling Mage leaves play, can the named non-land card be played ?
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DuCK



Joined: 04 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes
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Ossy



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes.
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Pillsburry



Joined: 17 Oct 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has the same wording has Iona, Shield of Emeria and when Iona leaves play the color still can't be played... why is Meddling Mage different?

I think its because of the last known information rule which logically doesn't make any sense imo, is that it? It remembers the color but not the card ? lol.

EDIT:

Another rule that doesn't make sense realistically is if I block with a creature then sac the creature b4 combat dmg, I will receive no combat damage.

If your at war, your enemy is coming towards you and is about to strike at the guy in front of you and he dodges, when your enemy strikes (deals combat dmg) your in trouble Wink
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Oop



Joined: 15 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iona's ability is the same as meddling mage, they are both state based effects, if they leave play when game state is checked again the card and/or color can be played...

As for the other ruling your talking about, I am not sure what your confused about based on how you worked the last part of your edit.... but when you block with a creature if you sacrifice it before combat damage, neither creature will receive damage since one is gone....

For example... I attack you with my Dauntless Escort and you block him with a Baneslayer Angel

I dont want you to gain the 5 life from lifelink, so before combat damage is dealt I sacrifice him to make all my creatures indestructable. When the baneslayer angel tries to attack the creature she blocked, it is no longer there and no combat damage is dealt therefore you would gain no life.
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Dyno



Joined: 02 May 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I asked my opponent this yesterday and he responded:

"LOL

OBV"

Then he tried to PM the quote of me asking it to his friend in IRC, but accidentally sent it to me.

Cool guy.
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Hardtrack



Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Posts: 505

PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, Iona, Shield of Emeria nor Meddling Mage have state-based effects, they have static abilities (the term no longer exists, nor could anyone every 'have them').

Their static abilities only function for as long as they are in play. Just like Glorious Anthem stops applying if you destroy it, so do Iona and the Mage stop applying if they are destroyed (and not 'when the game state is checked', right away).

And to your second question: whether or not it makes sense, the rules are as they are. When something is blocked it stays blocked, no matter what happens to the blocking creature.
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Vedrfolner



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 2150

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the enemy sends troops to attack your home base and encounters your defenders on the way, both sides preparing for battle then the defenders vanishes into thin air, they wouldn't reach the enemy base that day.

It is not as illogical as it seems.
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chakal_rbn



Joined: 02 Mar 2009
Posts: 85

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically, Pillsburry was wrong.. You obviously can play the color chosen by Iona after you take it out from game, right?

Just to be sure...
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Hardtrack



Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Posts: 505

PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hardtrack wrote:
Their static abilities only function for as long as they are in play.

Yes, that's what I said two weeks ago.
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