UW etherium

sergitknight · Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 193

a rogue deck I wanna work on something away from Jund and Vamps.
Could use some help woking it into shape. any advice is appreciated.

4 glacial fortress
2 gargoyle castle
9 plains
8 islands

4 Ethersworn Canonist
4 Ornithopter
4 Etherium Sculptor
4 Master of Etherium
2 Salvage Titan
4 Court Homunculus
1 Sanctum Gargoyle

2 Fabricate
4 path to Exile
4 Oblivion Ring
4 Eldrazi Monument

SB:
4 Pithing Needle ( planeswalkers)
4 Vedalken Outlander (Jund and Pro Red)
4 Silence
3 Quest for Ancient Secrets (milling decks)

The Basic Idea behind the deck is alot of small efficient creatures that build off each other (mostly Master of E) Canonist slows your opponent down, Sculptor bumps the curve of all the Artifacts down 1, Master of E comes in as a beatstick and pump up other artifacts, and Eldrazi monument is the kill condition for opponents over kill or blockers.

still some kinks that could be fixed but It works pretty well right now, So any advice would be greatly appreciated, lemme know what you think.

SJM · Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Posts: 144

You probably don't need 4 pithing needles in the side since you have 4 O rings main.

2 or 3 should do it.

4 monument is too many. Try 3.

weehood · Joined: 10 Jun 2008 Posts: 76

4 ornithopter seems a bit unnecessary for a card that essentially does nothing except in tandem with your other cards. in affinity, it is an artifact (essentially mana), and it carries cranial plating in the air for unfair killings. however, just because both decks are artifact focused, doesn't mean the value of the card carries over to this deck as well...

of course, i have not tested this deck, and am merely offering my opinion. you may know better than i.

JnsCrow · Joined: 19 Oct 2009 Posts: 3

The deck seems like there's no really large significant threats and there's nothing from preventing your canonists (or other creatures for that matter) from getting wiped. Maybe go bigger? Add Master Transmuters and Summoning Sphinx. That means splashing black though. I see you have Salvage Titans, but no black land generation. I'd even suggest Sen Triplets if you're looking at serious control, Ethersworn Canonist and Sen Triplets seems like it would be a pretty solid combo. I would abuse larger creatures with Master Transmuter that have awesome drop effects like Filigree Angel and Sharuum the Hegemon.

Those suggestions would completely change the concept of your deck though.

If you want to stay with your fundamental concept, I'd still splash black and add some Puppet Conjurers for your Eldrazi Monument and even Ethersworn Shieldmages for damage control. Lose the Salvage Titans, their ability is terrible there are cards much more efficient and look at maybe adding Glassdust Hulk if you want a "big" card (there are cards better than that one too, keep looking) I think there are better cards to replace the Ornithopter as well.

Sarutobi · Joined: 21 Oct 2008 Posts: 18

Try cutting the monuments down to two and adding more fabricates/draw, its really not something you should need or want to see multiples of in a game.

btw salvage titan has a manaless alt cost which is probably what ornithopter is in there to speed out. I'd prbably add some glassdusks (for the titans recursive) and open the vaults for a bidding style comeback post doj.

sergitknight · Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 193

thanks to everyone so far, ornithopter is pretty useful most of the time with MoE cause he hits in the air and serves as a +1+1.

here's the changes I've got so far:

Out:
-2 Salvage Titan
-2 Eldrazi-Monument
-2 Ornithopter

In:
+2 Glassdust Hulk
+2 Open the Vaults
+2 Fabricate

SB:
-2 Pithing Needle
+2 ethersworn Shieldmage

Jacois · Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 674

I love the idea of a UW artifact aggro deck. Aggro for speed and the Canonists for Bloodbraid.

Your implementation I don't like though. Salvage Titan can only be cast by sacrifice, which works against the Masters. Ornithopter just seems absolutely awful in your current build. Maybe if you added some Trusty Machetes to equip the thopter and swing Turn 2, but that's pretty narrow and weak. Thopter can only be legitimized if it has many decent yet narrow uses. A potential 1/3 on turn 3, or a Titan enabler isn't enough.

The problem with titan is you pretty much just have to sacrifice 3 creatures for 1 creature, and you have no way to protect it. If you're going to try to go "all in" for a titan, I strongly reccommend Spell Pierce to save your investment. Spell pierce also can handle an early judgement for your initial assault.

Decent idea, just needs to cut the crap and add more power cards I would think. GL with it.

sergitknight · Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 193

yeah titan was in the first build it worked in extended so i figured id try it in the test build. no synergy so i went glassdust hulk.

This deck is a ton of fun, and something new for once, but I still need to work out alot of kinks to make it legit.

sergitknight · Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 193

Ok so.... here's the new decklist after some testing.

2 Glassdust Hulk
4 Court Humonculus
4 Ethersworn Canonist
4 Etherium Sculptor
3 Ethersworn Shieldmage
4 Master of Etherium

1 Open the Vaults
3 Ponder
4 Path to exile
3 Oblivion Ring
1 Gorgon Flail
2 Eldrazi Monument
3 Fabricate

4 glacial fortress
2 gargoyle castle
8 plains
8 islands

Qamiqaze · Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 23

built a similar deck... vedalkan outlander seems aiight in the current metagame, and if you can somehow get the manabase to work (which is what i'm having trouble with), glaze fiend makes a good splash.

oh, and esperzoa combos well with both ethersworn shieldmage and the glaze fiend...

xSNACKSx · Joined: 20 Jul 2009 Posts: 54

Turn 4-5 day of judgment, turn 6 otv, win?

sergitknight · Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 193

esperzoa sounds kinda cool, I may try a one of. Canonist and sculptor take the 2cMC spot over outlander ever if he's anti lightning bolt.

and as far as Day of judgement into OTV. those circumstances are very hard to get in this deck and without a search engine pretty close to useless. DoJ might be a good SB card but as far as main deck in an aggro deck, I dont think thats gonna work.