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illusion
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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 Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:55 pm Post subject: ***Update*** RG Land D. |
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// Lands
4 [GP] Stomping Ground
4 [OV] Karplusan Forest
4 [8E] Forest (3)
4 [MI] Mountain (2)
2 [SM] Fire-Lit Thicket
// Creatures
4 [10E] Birds of Paradise
4 [CFX] Noble Hierarch
4 [U] Llanowar Elves
4 [SHM] Deus of Calamity
2 [TSB] Avalanche Riders
// Spells
4 [MR] Molten Rain
4 [A] Stone Rain
4 [DS] Trinisphere
4 [9E] Blood Moon
4 [M10] Lightning Bolt
2 [M10] Garruk Wildspeaker
2 [10E] Incinerate
// Sideboard
SB: 3 [TSB] Tormod's Crypt
SB: 3 [TSP] Ancient Grudge
SB: 2 [9E] Boiling Seas
SB: 2 [9E] Flashfires
SB: 2 [TSB] Stormbind
SB: 3 [FD] Engineered Explosives
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SugarShark
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:31 am Post subject: |
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maybe some fire-lit thicket and reduce your mountains
and the new kicker goblin instead of or in addition to avalanche riders |
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SJM
Joined: 17 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:35 am Post subject: |
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| Isn't extended dominated by zoo which only needs 1 land in play to operate? |
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illusion
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| SJM wrote: | | Isn't extended dominated by zoo which only needs 1 land in play to operate? |
Blood Moon vs Zoo is hilarious, all his creatures will be 1/1's =/
Trinisphere owns Zoo. |
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DoomBring3r
Joined: 30 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:16 am Post subject: |
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| You won't even need to go as far, Engineered Explosives also takes care of Zoo, and it's also quite versatile. |
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illusion
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:03 am Post subject: |
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| SugarShark wrote: | maybe some fire-lit thicket and reduce your mountains
and the new kicker goblin instead of or in addition to avalanche riders |
Thx.
-2 Mountain
+2 Fire-Lit Thicket |
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illusion
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:09 am Post subject: |
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| DoomBring3r wrote: | | You won't even need to go as far, Engineered Explosives also takes care of Zoo, and it's also quite versatile. |
Thx, I'll sb it. |
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DoomBring3r
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:21 am Post subject: |
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| illusion wrote: | | DoomBring3r wrote: | | You won't even need to go as far, Engineered Explosives also takes care of Zoo, and it's also quite versatile. |
Thx, I'll sb it. |
Well now that i think about it, your deck is RG, so you need a Bird or Hierarch to blow 3cc stuff up.
I kinda wasn't thinking about this deck when i suggested it, but lol i guess it can help  |
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illusion
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:28 am Post subject: |
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| DoomBring3r wrote: | | illusion wrote: | | DoomBring3r wrote: | | You won't even need to go as far, Engineered Explosives also takes care of Zoo, and it's also quite versatile. |
Thx, I'll sb it. |
Well now that i think about it, your deck is RG, so you need a Bird or Hierarch to blow 3cc stuff up.
I kinda wasn't thinking about this deck when i suggested it, but lol i guess it can help |
I have BoP, Hierarch, Llanowar md xD |
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DoomBring3r
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:49 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, i meant in play for the BoP/Hierarch, though. |
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illusion
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:59 am Post subject: |
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| DoomBring3r wrote: | | Yeah, i meant in play for the BoP/Hierarch, though. |
| DoomBring3r wrote: | | Yeah, i meant in play for the BoP/Hierarch, though. |
True, but I think they're 2cc stuff are better threats.
Tarmogoyf, Qasali Pridemage, Jitte
Other 2cc stuff not threats
Teeg or Ethersworn canonist.
The only 3cc stuff that is a threat is Knight of the reliquary, but an opponent have hard time getting 3 lands vs land D. |
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illusion
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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After further testing, I decided to md 4 explosives (Meta call).
// Lands
4 [GP] Stomping Ground
4 [OV] Karplusan Forest
4 [8E] Forest (3)
4 [MI] Mountain (2)
3 [SHM] Fire-Lit Thicket
// Creatures
4 [10E] Birds of Paradise
4 [CFX] Noble Hierarch
4 [U] Llanowar Elves
4 [SHM] Deus of Calamity
// Spells
4 [MR] Molten Rain
4 [A] Stone Rain
4 [DS] Trinisphere
3 [9E] Blood Moon
4 [M10] Lightning Bolt
2 [PLC] Boom/Bust
4 [FD] Engineered Explosives
// Sideboard
SB: 4 [TSB] Tormod's Crypt
SB: 3 [TSP] Ancient Grudge
SB: 3 [9E] Boiling Seas
SB: 3 [9E] Flashfires
SB: 2 [TSB] Stormbind
Matches:
2-0 vs Fairies
2-0 vs Grind Deck
2-0 vs Some sort of Reanimator
1-2 vs Doran
1-2 vs Naya Zoo
These matches were played before I had 4 explosive maindeck so hopefully those will help. |
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SJM
Joined: 17 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Do you really need 19 land and 12 mana producers?
That's like running 31 land almost. |
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illusion
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| SJM wrote: | Do you really need 19 land and 12 mana producers?
That's like running 31 land almost. |
Well the 12 mana producers are crucial, I need to start with 1 in hand or I won't disrupt his play until turn 3.
How many lands should I run? |
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darkwizard42
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| I feel 21 lands wouldn't be bad...you are essentially worried about hitting a second land drop on turn 2...assume with 12 producers you will hit a first-turn accelerator, but then you need to hit a second turn land, otherwise your goal of t2 disruption fails. |
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