plague of vermin + soul warden

Eidolonz · Joined: 01 Jul 2006 Posts: 33

I was just curious....

If I cast a Plague of Vermin with a Soul Warden in play. Am I right in the fact that this isn't an infinite combo since the life gain triggers from soul warden wouldn't resolve until after Plague of vermin fully resolves?

Soul Warden
Creature - Human Cleric 1/1, W (1)
Whenever another creature enters the battlefield, you gain 1 life.

Plague of Vermin

Sorcery, 6B (7)
Starting with you, each player may pay any amount of life. Repeat this process until no one pays life. Each player puts a 1/1 black Rat creature token onto the battlefield for each 1 life he or she paid this way.

On another note, can 2 ( or more) rings of brighthearth trigger off each other?

Rings of Brighthearth

Artifact, 3 (3)
Whenever you activate an ability, if it isn't a mana ability, you may pay {2}. If you do, copy that ability. You may choose new targets for the copy.

Ex. If i were to activate a Time Sieve, could i use ring 1 to copy the initial activation, then use ring 2 to copy the copy made by ring 1, then use ring 1 to copy the copy made by ring 2, and so on?

Cheers,
eidolonz

Mr_Eko · Joined: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 28

5/1/2008: In a game of N players, the process ends when all N players in sequence (starting with you) choose not to pay life. It doesn't end the first time a player chooses not to pay life. If a player chooses not to pay life but the process continues, that player may pay life the next time the process gets around to him or her.
5/1/2008: The amount of life a player may spend must be equal to or less than that player's life total; you can't spend life you haven't got.
5/1/2008: If a player chooses to spend life, his or her life total goes down immediately. This will affect how much life that player can spend the next time the process gets around to him or her. If a player chooses to pay life three different times during this process, for example, that counts as three separate instances of losing life, not as one.
5/1/2008: After the process stops, the total amount of life each player paid this way is calculated. That's how many tokens each player gets. All the tokens come into play at the same time.5/1/2008: In a Two-Headed Giant game, each player on a team gets a chance to pay life. The team's life total is adjusted in between.

So no since all tokens come into play at same time.

TaKK · Joined: 09 Aug 2009 Posts: 19

As for the Rings "combo", Rings is a triggered ability that cannot be copied by the second Ring. However both may copy the activated ability from the original source, but not from eachother.

IberianWolf · Joined: 17 Nov 2006 Posts: 153

the rings copy the ability, so you're not activating any ability, it's just triggering.