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Tacitrequiem
Joined: 28 Aug 2009
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 Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:02 pm Post subject: combat damage confusion...... |
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Scenario; Opponent and I are both at 1 life, I attack with my 5/5 trampler. He blocks with Swans of Bryn Argoll (4/3 prevent all damage done to swans, opponent draws a card for each damage prevented this way), and also has out underworld dreams(draw a card take 1 damage). Does he die first do to trample damage, or do I die first do to prevention effect and drawing?
thanks for the help folks!!! |
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Hardtrack
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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| The triggered abilities from Underworld Dreams will never even be put on the stack, because he dies before that happens from the trample damage. |
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IberianWolf
Joined: 17 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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| well, I'm not sure if the dreams triggers aren't put on the stack, put they surely won't resolve because the game will end when state-based effects are checked (when a player has priority). so yeah, the trampler does the job. |
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Hovertical
Joined: 09 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:24 am Post subject: |
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| IberianWolf wrote: | | well, I'm not sure if the dreams triggers aren't put on the stack, put they surely won't resolve because the game will end when state-based effects are checked (when a player has priority). so yeah, the trampler does the job. |
Well damage is dealt and he is dead before swans can prevent damage to itself. ^^ |
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Hardtrack
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| Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:13 am Post subject: |
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| Hovertical wrote: | | Well damage is dealt and he is dead before swans can prevent damage to itself. ^^ |
No. This is incorrect. Replacement effect do not use the stack and are applied immediately. You draw the cards at the same time as the damage is dealt to your opponent. |
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Hovertical
Joined: 09 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:16 am Post subject: |
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| Hardtrack wrote: | | Hovertical wrote: | | Well damage is dealt and he is dead before swans can prevent damage to itself. ^^ |
No. This is incorrect. Replacement effect do not use the stack and are applied immediately. You draw the cards at the same time as the damage is dealt to your opponent. |
I thought that you had to deal damage for it to be prevented there, I am sorry if i was mistaken. >.> |
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NO-NAME
Joined: 09 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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| lets see, 5/5 deals 3 to swan and 2 to your opp, damage to swans is prevented and underworld ability tiggs, goes on the stack, and the game ends before you gain priority (check for state base effects) |
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Hardtrack
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| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:04 am Post subject: |
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| Again, although it matters little, the triggered abilities never reach the stack. SBA's are checked before triggered abilities are put on the stack. |
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