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Thicket
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 Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:00 pm Post subject: Question about convoke |
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This may be a dumb question, but my brother pointed out an interesting interpretation for the wording for convoke (Chord of Calling specifically) which I wasn't really able to argue other than "I doubt it."
Let's say I play Chord and want to tap a Llanowar for convoke. Can I tap the Llanowar for his G ability and have it count for convoke? My magic instincts tell me no, but it does say "creature tapped WHILE" as opposed to "tapped FOR." So if I tap 3 Forests and want 2 more mana, one for convoke, one for something else, I can then tap Llanny to put a G in my pool for the other thing. I will certainly have "tapped while playing" Chord. So does the tap count for both? Am I making sense?
So while I'm guessing you can't do that, the wording on the card truly does suggest you CAN based on the "instant" speed of fast effects (is that term even used any more?). And if you can do that... cool! 
What's the word, guys? Thanks in advance! |
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Ffancrzy
Joined: 30 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: Question about convoke |
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| Thicket wrote: | This may be a dumb question, but my brother pointed out an interesting interpretation for the wording for convoke (Chord of Calling specifically) which I wasn't really able to argue other than "I doubt it."
Let's say I play Chord and want to tap a Llanowar for convoke. Can I tap the Llanowar for his G ability and have it count for convoke? My magic instincts tell me no, but it does say "creature tapped WHILE" as opposed to "tapped FOR." So if I tap 3 Forests and want 2 more mana, one for convoke, one for something else, I can then tap Llanny to put a G in my pool for the other thing. I will certainly have "tapped while playing" Chord. So does the tap count for both? Am I making sense?
So while I'm guessing you can't do that, the wording on the card truly does suggest you CAN based on the "instant" speed of fast effects (is that term even used any more?). And if you can do that... cool!
What's the word, guys? Thanks in advance! |
Cut directly from the Ravnica FAQ. Bolded part is what you are looking for
502.46a Convoke is a static ability that functions while the spell is on the stack. "Convoke" means "As an additional cost to play this spell, you may tap any number of untapped creatures you control. Each creature tapped this way reduces the cost to play this spell by {1} or by one mana of any of that creature's colors." Using the convoke ability follows the rules for paying additional costs in rules 409.1b and 4091f-h.
Example: You play Guardian of Vitu-Ghazi, a spell with convoke that costs {3}{G}{W}. You announce that you're going to tap an artifact creature, a red creature, and a green-and-white creature to help pay for it. The artifact creature and the red creature each reduce the spell's cost by {1}. You choose whether the green-white creature reduces the spell's cost by {1}, {G}, or {W}. Then the creatures become tapped as you pay Guardian of Vitu-Ghazi's cost.
502.46b Convoke can't reduce the cost to play a spell to less than 0.
502.46c Multiple instances of convoke on the same spell are redundant.
* You can tap only untapped creatures you control to reduce the cost of a spell with convoke that you play.
* While playing a spell with convoke, if you control a creature that taps to produce mana, you can either tap it for mana or tap it to reduce the cost of the spell, but not both.
* If you tap a multicolored creature to reduce the cost of a spell with convoke, you reduce the cost by {1} or by one mana of your choice of any of that creature's colors.
* Convoke doesn't change a spell's mana cost or converted mana cost.
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