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LordHawk



Joined: 12 Dec 2006
Posts: 68

PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:27 pm    Post subject: uw control Reply with quote

// Lands
6 [UNH] Plains
6 [UNH] Island
4 [SHM] Reflecting Pool
3 [SHM] Mystic Gate
4 [M10] Glacial Fortress

// Creatures
3 [M10] Baneslayer Angel
3 [SHM] Kitchen Finks
4 [LRW] Mulldrifter

// Spells
3 [M10] Ponder
4 [M10] Silence
4 [M10] Unsummon
4 [LRW] Cryptic Command
4 [MOR] Negate
4 [M10] Essence Scatter
4 [CNF] Path to Exile

// Sideboard
SB: 4 [M10] Pithing Needle
SB: 2 [ALA] Kiss of the Amesha
SB: 4 [SHM] Runed Halo
SB: 2 [M10] Righteousness
SB: 3 [SHM] Prison Term


Any input is welcomed. Thank you in advance.
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Jacois



Joined: 05 Sep 2004
Posts: 1201

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't play me please.
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MetalDuck



Joined: 05 Jul 2009
Posts: 108

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jacois wrote:
Don't play me please.



Agreed
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Lynolf



Joined: 25 Aug 2007
Posts: 546

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You call that a control deck, yet you have no mass removal. That's the key in any pure control deck, specially in the current metagame. This could be a good time for you to test Planar Cleansing since you rely mostly on spells to get the job done.

Baneslayer Angel, altough a strong card, isn't enough for itself to win you the game. You need a more reliable source to do that. Oona, Queen of the Fae should do it.

Silence, as well as Ponder, are not worth the slot.
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Duodax



Joined: 29 Jan 2006
Posts: 390

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Broken Ambitions, no Hallowed Burial Weak Deck
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Vodka_7up



Joined: 06 Oct 2004
Posts: 215

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Unsummon should be replaced with Broken Ambition. I think the Silences should be moved to the board, it is kinda cool negate an oppponents turn but I don't think you have the card advantage AND sweeper available to pull it off.

You can also consider a black splash for Esper Charm (perhaps ponder switch) and Sphinx of the Steel Wind?
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R3wind



Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Posts: 1386

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You def need Hallowed Burial. I would run UWb. This is why. Esper Charm is really good. Also you have Bitterblossom, Sphinx of the Steelwind, Oona, Ethersworn Ajudicator, and Doom Blade.

You are running way to much countermagic to play anything other then mono-blue. You need to play mostly Islands, the new duels with filter lands, and 3-6 Borderposts. You are going to give up your first 3 turns to aggro anyway so make the most of it and ramp into Hallowed Burial. Really you should

Your spells should look like this. You could also drop Tezz and the posts for Bitterblossoms and more life gain. I like Tezz as he finds Ethersworn Ajudicator and Sphinx of the Steelwind. Also you can win with your Borderposts.

4 Esper Charm
4 Cryptic Command
4 Broken Ambition
2 Negate
3 Path to Exile
3 Hallowed Burial
3 U/W Borderpost
2 U/B Borderpost
1 Martial Coup

Your creatures are close but I would test this out.

4 Mulldrifter
3 Kitchen Finks
1 Ethersworn Ajudicator
1 Tezz
1 Sphinx of the Steelwind

Your sideboard could also be a little differant as this is an aggro meta.

3 Doom Blade or Infest
1 Dispeller's Capsule
1 Tezz
3 Baneslayer Angel
3 Meddling Mage
3 Sower of Temptation
1 Kitchen Finks
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onecleanceli



Joined: 27 Mar 2005
Posts: 398

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

been working on UW control myself actually and I agree with everyone here, that is a weak deck if you're trying to call it 'control'... here's my list:

// Lands
12 [ALA] Island (3)
4 [M10] Glacial Fortress
6 [ALA] Plains (4)
4 [SHM] Mystic Gate

// Creatures
3 [M10] Baneslayer Angel
1 [SHM] Oona, Queen of the Fae

// Spells
1 [CFX] Martial Coup
3 [CFX] Traumatic Visions
2 [EVE] Hallowed Burial
2 [SHM] Runed Halo
3 [LRW] Oblivion Ring
3 [M10] Negate
3 [M10] Jace Beleren
4 [LRW] Broken Ambitions
4 [LRW] Cryptic Command
3 [M10] Essence Scatter
1 [M10] Mind Spring
1 [LRW] Hoofprints of the Stag

// Sideboard
SB: 4 [M10] Flashfreeze
SB: 2 [ALA] Elspeth, Knight-Errant
SB: 2 [EVE] Glen Elendra Archmage
SB: 3 [LRW] Sower of Temptation
SB: 2 [M10] Pithing Needle
SB: 2 [CFX] Celestial Purge

the hoofprints is just a random card that got thrown in b/c I had an open slot for something
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R3wind



Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Posts: 1386

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

O-ring is something that I missed in my list. It's a great all around solution to trouble that you may get into. I wonder how well only 2 Wrath of God effects is going to work. Martial Coup is only effective as Wrath of God turn 7. How has your list tested without Path to Exile? That's an interesting ommission.
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OldBear



Joined: 12 Apr 2005
Posts: 1840

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

o-ring should be no more than a 1 off atm due to pulse.
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Delicious



Joined: 08 Jun 2007
Posts: 883

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think most Uw(b) cntrol decks miss a very important card: Wall of Denial

a 0/8 for 3 mana that flies and has shroud. No one can burn it and it protects itself. i thought that card would change the control scene, but i never see anyone playing it

Here is my esper control:

// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands
1 [LRW] Vivid Marsh
4 [LRW] Vivid Creek
1 [SHM] Swamp (4)
2 [SHM] Plains (1)
4 [ALA] Arcane Sanctum
4 [SHM] Reflecting Pool
3 [SHM] Mystic Gate
1 [EVE] Fetid Heath
3 [SHM] Island (4)
2 [LRW] Vivid Meadow

// Creatures
4 [LRW] Mulldrifter
2 [M10] Baneslayer Angel
4 [ARB] Wall of Denial
3 [SHM] Oona, Queen of the Fae

// Spells
4 [ALA] Esper Charm
3 [M10] Negate
3 [LRW] Broken Ambitions
2 [ALA] Oblivion Ring
4 [LRW] Cryptic Command
3 [EVE] Hallowed Burial
3 [CFX] Path to Exile

// Sideboard
SB: 3 [EVE] Glen Elendra Archmage
SB: 2 [M10] Pithing Needle
SB: 3 [ALA] Infest
SB: 3 [CFX] Celestial Purge
SB: 3 [LRW] Sower of Temptation
SB: 1 [CFX] Path to Exile


I have been thinking of taking out some of the CIPT lands because it slows me down in this fast aggro meta.
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Jacois



Joined: 05 Sep 2004
Posts: 1201

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Traumatic Visions, I don't think that card is getting enough credit.
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