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ACR 4-3-2-2 draft no5.



 
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OldBear



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:44 am    Post subject: ACR 4-3-2-2 draft no5. Reply with quote

Back with another 4-3-2-2 I have stopped typing up drafts where I go esper, as I do not think anyone is benifiting from them there are more than enough esper drafts by me in the limited section if you feel you could do with someone else's perspective on drafting esper. I won.


Event #: 422919
Time: 6/16/2009 1:39:57 PM
Players:
Jrock76
--> ElementalMox
Farmergeddon
takumi01
WereDuck
Nornagest
BopBob
bigh

------ ALA ------

Pack 1 pick 1:
--> Resounding Thunder
Call to Heel
Yoked Plowbeast
Dregscape Zombie
Kederekt Creeper
Savage Hunger
Windwright Mage
Executioner's Capsule
Branching Bolt
Outrider of Jhess
Fire-Field Ogre
Bull Cerodon
Rockcaster Platoon
Hellkite Overlord
Swamp

This is a very powerfull pack alot of good red, hellkite overlord is a bomb but is to expensive for my taste when you considered the large colour commitment as well, If I am going to play bull ceredon i am either naya or 5cc control so once again its quite a big commitment, e-capsule is not quite of the same power level of thunder or branching bolt, the bolt is a little more restrictive in terms of what i can play no grxis and the cycle ability of thunder and ability to go to the dome, outweighs the potential 2 for 1 with bolt in my opinion.

Pack 1 pick 2:
Waveskimmer Aven
Coma Veil
Soul's Grace
Skeletal Kathari
Outrider of Jhess
--> Carrion Thrash
Lightning Talons (FOIL)
Glaze Fiend
Gift of the Gargantuan
Sigiled Paladin
Demon's Herald
Sangrite Surge
Clarion Ultimatum
Mountain

This pack is very weak the stongest card is the paladin but it did not feel signifcantly stonger than the carrion thrash that I should take it.

Pack 1 pick 3:
Viscera Dragger
Resounding Roar
Viashino Skeleton
Etherium Sculptor
Dreg Reaver
Skeletal Kathari
Guardians of Akrasa
Goblin Deathraiders
Goblin Mountaineer
--> Blood Cultist
Angel's Herald
Prince of Thralls
Forest

The blood cultist is the best card in the pack and in my colours

Pack 1 pick 4:
Vectis Silencers
Welkin Guide
Bone Splinters
Deft Duelist
Savage Hunger
Hindering Light
Arcane Sanctum (FOIL)
Fatestitcher
--> Sprouting Thrinax
Sunseed Nurturer
Skill Borrower
Swamp

Strong pack, sanctum, fate sticher, splinters and sprouting thrinax which is the pick for my deck

Pack 1 pick 5:
Naturalize
Angelsong
Blister Beetle
Obelisk of Jund
Cathartic Adept
Lightning Talons
Elvish Visionary
Sighted-Caste Sorcerer
--> Scavenger Drake
Dawnray Archer
Island

Both beetle and scavenger drake are excellent in jund, the drake i find is an absoulete house in this archtype so was my pick

Pack 1 pick 6:
Cathartic Adept
--> Lightning Talons
Forest (FOIL)
Onyx Goblet
Godtoucher
Guardians of Akrasa
Goblin Mountaineer
Shore Snapper
Thoughtcutter Agent
Island

Not a great 6th pick

Pack 1 pick 7:
Jhessian Lookout
Dreg Reaver
--> Cylian Elf
Onyx Goblet
Spell Snip
Gustrider Exuberant
Sangrite Surge
Cunning Lethemancer
Plains

2 drop in what appears to be my 3rd colour though its two early to be ceratin is not exciting

Pack 1 pick 8:
--> Etherium Sculptor
Marble Chalice
Deathgreeter
Godtoucher
Cathartic Adept
Protomatter Powder
Ooze Garden
Island

Pack 1 pick 9:
Yoked Plowbeast
--> Dregscape Zombie
Kederekt Creeper
Savage Hunger
Windwright Mage
Outrider of Jhess
Swamp

Not surprising this wheeled out of that ridicolous pack

Pack 1 pick 10:
Coma Veil
Soul's Grace
--> Glaze Fiend
Demon's Herald
Sangrite Surge
Mountain

Pack 1 pick 11:
Viashino Skeleton
--> Skeletal Kathari
Goblin Mountaineer
Angel's Herald
Forest

Easy pick

Pack 1 pick 12:
Vectis Silencers
Savage Hunger
--> Sunseed Nurturer
Swamp

Pack 1 pick 13:
Cathartic Adept
--> Lightning Talons
Island

Pack 1 pick 14:
--> Cathartic Adept
Island

Pack 1 pick 15:
--> Plains

------ CON ------

Pack 2 pick 1:
Aven Squire
Wretched Banquet
Sylvan Bounty
Canyon Minotaur
Traumatic Visions
Rhox Meditant
Salvage Slasher
Brackwater Elemental
Exploding Borders
Maniacal Rage
Dragonsoul Knight
Viashino Slaughtermaster
--> Shambling Remains
Sigil of the Empty Throne
Mountain

Great aggresive creature

Pack 2 pick 2:
Wild Leotau
Frontline Sage
--> Fiery Fall
Pestilent Kathari
Valeron Outlander
Asha's Favor
Rupture Spire
Vectis Agents
Molten Frame
Ancient Ziggurat
Spore Burst
Dreadwing
Master Transmuter
Island

I think the fireyfall just edges rupture spire, both are excellent.

Pack 2 pick 3:
Mana Cylix
Gleam of Resistance
Wild Leotau
Frontline Sage
Pestilent Kathari
Asha's Favor
--> Rupture Spire
Vectis Agents
Molten Frame
Cumber Stone
Skyward Eye Prophets
Fleshformer
Swamp

Now Im feeling a little happier about my manabase

Pack 2 pick 4:
Toxic Iguanar
Faerie Mechanist
Bone Saw
Gleam of Resistance
Wandering Goblins
Brackwater Elemental
Suicidal Charge
Maniacal Rage
Filigree Fracture
Paragon of the Amesha
--> Scarland Thrinax
Forest

Awsome with what I have

Pack 2 pick 5:
Zombie Outlander
Kaleidostone
Darklit Gargoyle
--> Nacatl Outlander
Nacatl Savage
Valiant Guard
Grixis Illusionist
Yoke of the Damned
Jhessian Balmgiver
Sludge Strider
Forest

Not the best 5th pick but it fills a hole

Pack 2 pick 6:
Unsummon
Kranioceros
Faerie Mechanist
--> Absorb Vis
Vectis Agents
Quenchable Fire
Tukatongue Thallid
Lapse of Certainty
View from Above
Plains

Fixing plus end game reach great in this sort of deck

Pack 2 pick 7:
Mana Cylix
Zombie Outlander
Darklit Gargoyle
Rotting Rats
Asha's Favor
Grixis Illusionist
Knotvine Mystic
--> Esperzoa
Swamp

The Zoa felt like the worst of the many esper options i do not want to see vs me in this pack

Pack 2 pick 8:
Unsummon
Rhox Meditant
Vedalken Outlander
Infectious Horror
Rhox Bodyguard
Wandering Goblins
--> Shambling Remains
Forest

Wow 8th pick remains thankyou very much!

Pack 2 pick 9:
Wretched Banquet
--> Canyon Minotaur
Traumatic Visions
Salvage Slasher
Maniacal Rage
Sigil of the Empty Throne
Mountain

I like the minotaurs more than the bannquet as i have alot of low power creatures

Pack 2 pick 10:
Pestilent Kathari
Asha's Favor
Vectis Agents
--> Molten Frame
Spore Burst
Island

Pack 2 pick 11:
Asha's Favor
Vectis Agents
--> Molten Frame
Skyward Eye Prophets
Swamp

Pack 2 pick 12:
--> Toxic Iguanar
Bone Saw
Maniacal Rage
Forest

Pack 2 pick 13:
Valiant Guard
--> Jhessian Balmgiver
Forest

Pack 2 pick 14:
--> Tukatongue Thallid
Plains

Pack 2 pick 15:
--> Swamp

------ ARB ------

Pack 3 pick 1:
Leonin Armorguard
Architects of Will
Fieldmist Borderpost
Crystallization
Mistvein Borderpost
Sanctum Plowbeast
Demonic Dread
Magefire Wings
Sigil of the Nayan Gods
Arsenal Thresher
Ardent Plea
--> Bituminous Blast
Double Negative
Wargate
Island

This is as straight forward a pick as you can get

Pack 3 pick 2:
Monstrous Carabid
Talon Trooper
--> Sangrite Backlash
Winged Coatl
Deadshot Minotaur
Veinfire Borderpost
Offering to Asha
Godtracker of Jund
Igneous Pouncer
Esper Sojourners
Marisi's Twinclaws
Nulltread Gargantuan
Blitz Hellion
Swamp

This was a tough pack the twinclaws is prob the best card but green is a splash colour that i want to keep to a minimum, I could do with one more piece of fixing but I an going to gamble on getting that latter, so for me the pick is the cheap removal

Pack 3 pick 3:
Cerodon Yearling
Deny Reality
Glassdust Hulk
--> Jund Hackblade
Firewild Borderpost
Jund Sojourners
Captured Sunlight
Breath of Malfegor
Etherium Abomination
Thopter Foundry
Mage Slayer
Madrush Cyclops
Swamp

Alot of my two drops have green in there mana requirements which is not good, I do not have that much time to pick up fixing my deck is already powerfull enough to win a draft so making my mana base bad for power seems wrong, so the easily castable 2 drop it is.

Pack 3 pick 4:
Glassdust Hulk
Leonin Armorguard
Cerodon Yearling
Ethercaste Knight
Captured Sunlight
Magefire Wings
Trace of Abundance
--> Kathari Bomber
Skyclaw Thrash
Morbid Bloom
Soulquake
Plains

Should be very good with what I ahve already

Pack 3 pick 5:
Leonin Armorguard
Architects of Will
Fieldmist Borderpost
Sanctum Plowbeast
Demonic Dread
Magefire Wings
Sigil of the Nayan Gods
Arsenal Thresher
Thopter Foundry
--> Madrush Cyclops
Plains

Easy pick

Pack 3 pick 6:
Naya Hushblade (FOIL)
--> Putrid Leech
Colossal Might
Arsenal Thresher
Demonic Dread
Offering to Asha
Marrow Chomper
Unbender Tine
Dragon Appeasement
Mountain

Late leech

Pack 3 pick 7:
Soul Manipulation
Stormcaller's Boon
Gorger Wurm
--> Trace of Abundance
Grizzled Leotau
Bant Sojourners
Demonspine Whip
Mind Funeral
Swamp

Erm Im not sure what happened here I looked at the gorger wurm which should have been the pick and somehow missed the fact I could play it and hated on the ramp come fixing

Pack 3 pick 8:
--> Jund Hackblade
Esper Sojourners
Ethercaste Knight
Godtracker of Jund
Breath of Malfegor
Dragon Appeasement
Vedalken Heretic
Swamp

Easy on the mana 2 drop

Pack 3 pick 9:
Leonin Armorguard
Architects of Will
Magefire Wings
Sigil of the Nayan Gods
--> Arsenal Thresher
Double Negative
Island

Pack 3 pick 10:
--> Monstrous Carabid
Offering to Asha
Godtracker of Jund
Esper Sojourners
Nulltread Gargantuan
Swamp

Pack 3 pick 11:
Cerodon Yearling
Breath of Malfegor
--> Thopter Foundry
Mage Slayer
Swamp

This is very very wrong

Pack 3 pick 12:
Cerodon Yearling
Morbid Bloom
--> Soulquake
Plains

Pack 3 pick 13:
Sigil of the Nayan Gods
--> Arsenal Thresher
Plains

Pack 3 pick 14:
--> Dragon Appeasement
Mountain

Pack 3 pick 15:
--> Swamp

The deck

1 molten frame
1 sangrite backlash
1 dredgescape zombie
2 jund hackblade
1 nactal otlander
1 putrid leech
1 resounding thunder
1 bloodcultist
1 kathari bomber
1 scarland thrinax
2 shambling remains
1 sprouting thrinax
1 canyon minotaur
1 madrush cyclops
1 bituminous blast
1 carrion thrash
1 monsterous carbid
1 skeletal kathari
1 fireyfall
1 absorb vis
1 rupture spire
6 swamp
7 mountain
3 forest

I got to say Im starting to like cascade a bit more, cascade into scavenger drake 3 times and it end up getting massive and winning me the game, other time I cascade into a remains needless to say I was expecting molten frame every time:P

feedback appreciated
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wiltstorm



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Posts: 42

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think u did fine the only thing for me which probably didnt matter is on pack1 pick 10 u picked a glaze fiend which im sure u didnt use but there was a sangrite surge in there that i think is underrated its a great win condidition imgine u have prouting thinax out and they are at 12 life sngrite surge wins the game also good with evasin creatures like scavenger drake

thats the only thing that bothered me =]
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Rink



Joined: 16 Jan 2007
Posts: 22

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also P1P8 you picked an etherium sculptor over an ooze garden... don't get me wrong ooze garden is not a good card, but it has some really great synergies in your deck. Anything that gets sacced contributes to scavenger drake's power. Shambling remains can be sacced to make a 4/4 without the drawback, then unearthed for a 4 power swing and then sacced again for another 4/4. Same with the monstrous carabid (getting rid of the drawback).

Of course I would never play Ooze Garden over the thrinax you got... just sayin Cool
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OldBear



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Posts: 1840

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it does have some good synergies would just like to point out that creatures that are unearthed do not add to scavenger drakes counter count, which your post kind of implied they did.

Its a card I've never seen work that great never tried but Gcoolboy kept trying to make it good back when modosharks was around on his vids and it just never was.
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MikeL123



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Posts: 78

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's funny, most of your reasons for avoiding Hellkite are the same as your reasons for picking Thunder over Branching Bolt (goes to the dome, wins games, costs 8, color commitment, etc).

I probably would have gone with the Executioner's Capsule, knowing I was passing some nice red, and taken a stab at esper.

Also, P2P5... I think Yoke of the Damned is the clear pick here. Removal trumps almost anything, for me, and especially trumps a 2cc creature with 2 color requirements, one of which is my splash.
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OldBear



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really do not see how they are similar, thunder is not a colour commitment at all hellkite is so these are total opposites you can play it in any red deck not true of overlord, thunder costs 3 its just a bonus you can cycle it for 8. Goes to the dome and wins games are pretty much the same point, but i never even used that against hellkite it was a point for it my argument against was the colour requirement and high casting cost.

I think I underate yoked of the damned, its kind of situational removal, Ive seen it fall on a creature a few times and do nothing, or other times when they've cast that as there first removal spell i just beat them with that and never play another creature did this with a tower gargoyle and forced a 2 for 1.
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OldBear



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wrong thread
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