Help with a T2 Megrim/Underworld Dreams deck

motoxfreak · Joined: 25 Sep 2008 Posts: 1

I need help with this deck. It does very well sometimes and very poor sometimes. It seems about 50/50 whether or not its gonna do well and thats not good enough. Please help me out.

DECKLIST:

Lands:

9 Swamp
5 Island
4 Sunken Ruins
2 Fetid Heath
2 Graven Cairns

Creatures:

4 Ravenous Rats
2 Jace Beleren
2 Liliana Vess
2 Divinity of Pride
2 Drudge Skeletons

Spells:

4 Diabolic Tutor
4 Beseech the Queen
4 Mind Rot
4 Splitting Headache
4 Distress
2 Megrim
2 Underworld Dreams
2 Tyrannize
2 Mind Shatter

SideBoard:

4 Pithing Needle
4 Agony Warp
4 Terror
3 Ashling, the Extinguisher

Tird_Ape · Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 228

im sorry but this kind of deck will never be good its win condition is a trible black costing cast that is 20x slower than anything else. try again

Burton911 · Joined: 09 Jun 2007 Posts: 52

Add 4 Underworld Dreams and catch the Turbo Fog Players in the Tournament Shocked

It would be cool to take a foto of the impression on there face if the have to play against that card

Vedrfolner · Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 2151

First off, this will not work because once their hand is gone half your deck is useless, so your topdeck mode is horrible.

When that is said, you need 4 of both your win conditions. 4 Megrim, 4 Underworld Dreams.

Then you need Howling Mine and Spiteful Visions, so that they got cards you can discard for damage.

You should run Blightning.

The rest of your deck should be burn and creature kill (Volcanic Fallout, Incendiary Command).

Hmm, I'll just make a decklist to show you what I mean.

// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands
4 [LRW] Vivid Marsh
4 [LRW] Vivid Crag
4 [SHM] Reflecting Pool
4 [SHM] Graven Cairns
2 [10E] Sulfurous Springs
6 [ALA] Swamp (3)

// Spells
4 [10E] Megrim
4 [10E] Underworld Dreams
4 [10E] Howling Mine
4 [SHM] Spiteful Visions
4 [ALA] Blightning
4 [LRW] Incendiary Command
4 [CFX] Volcanic Fallout
4 [10E] Incinerate
4 [EVE] Batwing Brume

Egnirys · Joined: 31 Mar 2005 Posts: 158

Yeah that looks good, even if it's not viable it should be pretty fun in casual plays.

Batwing Brume though?

Vedrfolner · Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 2151

Triggers · Joined: 08 Sep 2008 Posts: 112

and its a house against tokens Razz

DoomBring3r · Joined: 30 Apr 2009 Posts: 436

I think this would work better as BW rather than RB.

WoG, the other fog effects, are superior and more effective.

If you have Howling Mines, why bother playing Blightning? It's really effective when your point is to empty their hand, not when they're getting a lot of cards anyway.

So, either cut the mines or blightning. They're not synergistic. Spiteful Visions is good with the Mine, and with Dreams.

Megrim is good with Blightning and that's basically it unless you manage to get a lot of other stuff on the board, but that's overkill.

However, this deck will have a big weak spot vs Maelstrom Pulse, which is a house nowadays.

Vedrfolner · Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 2151

Triggers · Joined: 08 Sep 2008 Posts: 112

DoomBring3r · Joined: 30 Apr 2009 Posts: 436

Yeah i understood your point about them, but what i dislike is the fact that you're not making their life that much difficult by running both.

Howling Mine has the neat perk of possibly causing overdraw and potential Cleanup Step discard, and then,

Blightning is good at thinning out your opponent's hand, being exceptionally great if you are able to take out a couple bombs from the hand, like cryptics and such,

So basically, in a situation where you put a lot of mines into play, and then use blightning, the damage isn't quite as big in my opinion.

And yeah i like the Wheel of Fortune effect from the Command, but even so i'd prefer the more controlling factor of adding white, fogs being the main reason as to why Turbo Fog did so well, hence its' name, duh Razz

whoempah_666 · Joined: 27 Mar 2005 Posts: 25

I played this deck a long time ago as a fun legacy deck but here you simply lack the speed i guess

maybe make it a little more defensive with wall of reverence, shriekmaw, murderous redcap, kitchen finks
a few planeswalkers like elspeth
she can make tokens and damage done to her is damage not done to you, and with the howling mines you'll see replacements much quicker

it's a shame teferi's puzzle box is out of the picture

Trotsky1 · Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 1674

Yeah blightning and howling mine is a bombo, its like playing a 3 mana lava spike and playing lava spike is bad in itself.

Egnirys · Joined: 31 Mar 2005 Posts: 158

You'll only Blightning when Megrim is in play, in which case it's 7 damage for 3 mana. With two Megrims it's going to be a massive 11 damage. With Howling in play you have a better chance of them having cards in hand so that they'll actually discard 2 cards for the 4 Megrim damage.

Ved's decklist is a pretty good list for this theme.

darkwizard42 · Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 106

I like Ved's List