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Pittsburgh PTQ report: GW Elves



 
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quicks1lver



Joined: 23 May 2007
Posts: 11

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 10:43 pm    Post subject: Pittsburgh PTQ report: GW Elves Reply with quote

So I just got back from making the 2.5 hour drive from Cleveland to Pittsburgh and back...so here's what I saw today:

Format: Standard (T2)

Decks overview:

By far the most common decks were 5-color (control, planeswalkers, or cascade) and different variations of Swans.

I played my own GW Elves deck - sort of a combination of BG elves, BW tokens, and GW tokens. You'll see.

Why you care: This deck has some merit, as it went 6-2, just missing the top 8, and I just slapped it together quickly this week during bored moments at work.

Decklist:



// Lands
4 [SHM] Wooded Bastion
4 [LRW] Windbrisk Heights
4 [10E] Brushland
5 [BD] Forest (3)
3 [10E] Plains (3)
3 [SUM] Treetop Village
1 [CFX] Exotic Orchard

// Creatures
2 [MOR] Bramblewood Paragon
3 [CHP] Imperious Perfect
4 [SHM] Wilt-Leaf Liege
3 [LRW] Wren's Run Vanquisher
3 [MOR] Wolf-Skull Shaman
2 [MOR] Chameleon Colossus
4 [LRW] Ajani Goldmane
3 [ARB] Dauntless Escort
4 [CFX] Noble Hierarch

// Spells
2 [LRW] Gilt-Leaf Ambush
2 [TE] Overrun
4 [SHM] Spectral Procession
1 [9E] Glorious Anthem
1 [ARB] Behemoth Sledge

// Sideboard
SB: 3 [10E] Pithing Needle
SB: 2 [SHM] Runed Halo
SB: 2 [CFX] Path to Exile
SB: 1 [LRW] Cloudthresher
SB: 2 [SHM] Guttural Response
SB: 2 [ARB] Qasali Pridemage
SB: 3 [LRW] Pollen Lullaby




Round 1: vs. GW tokens

Game 1, I kept a 2-lander (usually ok with what I had in hand as long as I hit a land in my first 3 draws). I didn't hit my 3rd land until turn 4, and I put out guys but he just had the momentum at that point. I lose g1, then I lose g2 because he God draws (hierarch, procession, windbrisk/anthem, anthem/goldmane from windbrisk. perfect. draw.)

Observations: As close to the mirror as this gets, I really wish I had drawn into my Pollen lullabies. They would be MVPs.

Record: 0-1

Round 2: vs. 5 color planeswalkers

Opp had an interesting 5c planeswalker deck that had no kitchen finks or any drops lower than 4cc. I crushed him easily, and it seems like a stupid build. he relies on broken ambitions for his early game stabilization...bad idea.

Record: 1-1

Round 3: vs. 5 color control

Opp's deck sucked. Flat out. I wasn't sure how this guy won a round. The only thing he got off game 1 was an evoked mulldrifter. 5cc is definitely not up to par anymore...not in this meta. Game 2, He mulls to 5 and I mull to 6. My play goes hierarch, spectral, heights/dauntless escort, attack / activate heights before dmg with anthem. The round is over in 10 minutes.

Record: 2-1

Round 4: vs. RDW

I wasn't sure if anyone would be playing Red Deck Wins in this current format, but if they did, I'm certain that they'd be running Demigod of Revenge. With all the creature hate out there, it seems like a miserly card to have in the graveyard in case you TD another. This guy didn't run it at all. Note: there is no kitchen finks anywhere near this deck, nor forge-tender. You don't need it. This is an easy matchup. The only card that's trouble is demigod, which he didn't run. The match lasts 15 minutes, and he forfeits g2 when I play a heights, wolf-skull shaman turn 2, get a wolf turn 3 and play a vanquisher, and turn over an Overrun from the heights.

Record: 3-1

Round 5 vs. Seismic Swans / 5c nauseum assault (I like the second title better because it better describes how I feel about this deck)

Man do I hate this deck. Why? Because it has ONE win condition (technically. Don't tell me about attacking with swans...you'll never have enough firepower to outshoot your opponent that way.). Pithing needle blows it out. Runed halo blows it out. Any countermagic blows it out. Thought hemmorhage blows it out. Need I go on?

Still, it's a combo deck and if it goes off turn 4 (provided I haven't hit one of my pridemages, pithing needles, OR runed halos), you're dead. Game 1, this guy was at 8 life and I had 7 power on the board (with anthem) with only 3 mana. He knew I wouldn't overrun the following turn, so he primal commands, searches for a creature, and puts my anthem on top of my deck.

Predictably, I play the anthem next turn and swing him to 1. He doesn't realize he has 3 out of 5 useless lands because they're pain lands. Scoops.

Game 2, he combos off. he wins.

Game 3, pithing needle turn 1, runed halo turn 2, good luck and hope you get lots of 5 mana bounce spells. Oh, you mean it hit into a seismic assault that I already prevented you from using? way to go, cascade. I'll just play the needle again next turn for 1 mana along with some more dudes. Or maybe an Ajani Goldmane.

Record: 4-1

Round 6: Swans #2

While this deck seems to do well against Swans, it still gets my blood pressure up thinking about turn 4 comboing me into oblivion. Especially g1 before SB.

I win handily in 2 games, and it's not even close.

Record: 5-1

Round 7: Swans #3

I'm really getting tired of facing swans every time now. I have a brain fart moment in game 1 where I have a windbrisk out, 2 1G casting cost creatures in my hand, and I boneheadedly (if that's a word) drop a plains out. I ask if I can take it back (To drop a brushland) and my opponent kind of shrugs and says "it hit the table. leave it there" with a smug little look on his face.

I end up losing the game because he combos off turn 5. Had I dropped the right land, I kill him before.

He's really getting smug now. In comes the sideboard. Game 2, pithing needle turn 1 and infinite beats by me.

Game 3, he has a ghitu encampment and 2 swans out and I'm at 10. He has no other lands except filter lands, so to attack me and kill me he has to topdeck a mana source to make red. He's at 16. I have out a vanquisher, an anthem, an imperious perfect, llanowar elves, and a treetop village.

He brings the house, thinking there's no way I kill him next turn.

I tap land and the elves to activate the village and then use heights to overrun.

He eats a lot of damage and that's game. As I'm walking away, the smirk turns to sour face and I just laugh at him and say "karma's a bitch, huh?"

Record: 6-1

Round 8: final round vs BW tokens

Here it is, ladies and gentlemen. My opp and I had the worst tiebreakers of the 6-1, so we couldn't elect to draw and both make t8.

So we played it out.

And I lost. horribly. I realized that my deck probably needs cloudgoat ranger for GW tokens or BW tokens, just to keep up with the dude generation levels. It wasn't even close or worth mentioning because he God drew and I drew shit.

He had, game 2, in his opening hand the following cards:

Windbrisk heights, knight of the white orchid, fetid heath, tidehollow sculler, bitterblossom, ajani goldmane, and zealous persecution. i'll spare you the ugly details, but let's just say I got blown out by a batwing brume. Not my proudest moment, but I'm pleased that my first PTQ ever - after 10 years of casual MTG - went this well.

Final result: 6-2.

I plan to tweak the deck, but I think it has a lot of potential.

Matchups: BW tokens and GW tokens are the toughest. 5cc, 5c planeswalkers, RDW, and swans are apparently the easiest (since I went 3-0 on swans on the day somehow).
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Vedrfolner



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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the first thing that I noticed was all the 2 and 3-ofs in your aggro deck. That is normally a bad thing because there is always a "best drop" (in your case Wren's Run Vanquisher). On the other hand, you do got 8 good 2-drops in your deck, each good at different things.

When it comes to card power, Gilt-leaf Ambush is not strong enough even though it fits the GW beatdown/GW tokens strategy, and I wouldn't run 4 Ajani Goldmane in any deck, especially not one with 6 other 4-drops that are better in more situations. Dauntless Escort is very rarely worth sacrificing against a Volcanic Fallout, so it is really only good vs Wrath of God. Put it in sb.

So:

-2 Gilt-leaf Ambush
-3 Ajani Goldmane
-3 Dauntless Escort (to sb)

+1 Wren's Run Vanquisher
+2 Glorious Anthem
+2 Cloudgoat Rangers
+3 Wilt-leaf Cavaliers (3-drops for Hierarch)
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quicks1lver



Joined: 23 May 2007
Posts: 11

PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vedrfolner wrote:
Well the first thing that I noticed was all the 2 and 3-ofs in your aggro deck. That is normally a bad thing because there is always a "best drop" (in your case Wren's Run Vanquisher). On the other hand, you do got 8 good 2-drops in your deck, each good at different things.

When it comes to card power, Gilt-leaf Ambush is not strong enough even though it fits the GW beatdown/GW tokens strategy, and I wouldn't run 4 Ajani Goldmane in any deck, especially not one with 6 other 4-drops that are better in more situations. Dauntless Escort is very rarely worth sacrificing against a Volcanic Fallout, so it is really only good vs Wrath of God. Put it in sb.

So:

-2 Gilt-leaf Ambush
-3 Ajani Goldmane
-3 Dauntless Escort (to sb)

+1 Wren's Run Vanquisher
+2 Glorious Anthem
+2 Cloudgoat Rangers
+3 Wilt-leaf Cavaliers (3-drops for Hierarch)


interesting deck advice.

Gilt-leaf ambush has to stay in the deck because 1. the surprise factor. Two deathtouch blockers in response to attacks can be huge. 2. it's an elf card and counts for paragon, perfect, shaman, etc. Trust me, having it at the tourney was tech.

Igo back and forth on the anthems. Originally I had 2, then I took one out because a lot of times it's a dead 3-drop when there are other things you want to cast. It's nice later game though. Ajani is so important that running 4 is fine. It's arguably the most important card in the deck. Cloudgoat ranger is good enough that I'll consider adding it.

As for escort, escort is good because it forces your opponent to change the whole way they play - they're VERY reluctant to attack you because all sorts of embarassing blowouts can occur. There's no way I'd take this card out. call it an "intangibles" card.

Wilt-leaf cavaliers just plain doesn't do enough. There are plenty of 3 drops - anthem, spectral procession, escort, and perfect - I like all better than cavaliers.

Thanks for your advice, I'll look it over. Smile
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caesarthehun



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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish Karma was a bitch for me Sad. Every time i let those fuckers take a play back, they beat me into the sand....
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OldBear



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Posts: 1840

PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im sorry thats not karma at all your opponent did nothing wrong, its a PTQ why on earth would he let you take back a mistake, its a competative event. Do Manchester Utd give the ball back to there opponent when they make a defensive error or do they go on and score. If this was the case Newcastle Utd would probably still be in the premiership because they would not be be being punished for all their defensive lapses which would be completely unfair as they do not deserve to be when they make defensive errors like that.

Rather than getting annoyed at your opponent because he would not let you take back a mistake at an event trying to qualify you for a pro standard tournament, get annoyed at yourself the right person to get annoyed at for making the mistake in the first place.
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Bozo



Joined: 09 Feb 2006
Posts: 107

PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You were lucky to beat Swans 3 times with that deck.
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darkwizard42
Level 2 Judge


Joined: 02 Sep 2005
Posts: 260

PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how many people were at the event??

I got to school at Carnegie Mellon (in Pittsburgh) but I wasn't in the area...wish I could have gotten a chance to go!
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quicks1lver



Joined: 23 May 2007
Posts: 11

PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trotsky1 wrote:
Im sorry thats not karma at all your opponent did nothing wrong, its a PTQ why on earth would he let you take back a mistake, its a competative event. Do Manchester Utd give the ball back to there opponent when they make a defensive error or do they go on and score. If this was the case Newcastle Utd would probably still be in the premiership because they would not be be being punished for all their defensive lapses which would be completely unfair as they do not deserve to be when they make defensive errors like that.

Rather than getting annoyed at your opponent because he would not let you take back a mistake at an event trying to qualify you for a pro standard tournament, get annoyed at yourself the right person to get annoyed at for making the mistake in the first place.


i agree with you. I WAS annoyed with myself. But his whole attitude was snide and chippy, and it just motivated me more.

Bozo: You're damn right lol

I beat swans because of pithing needle and runed halo. I won't lie. Well, and a couple games they didn't combo out. Let's be fair here. The turn 4 swans combo happens maybe 25% of the time. If they don't have it by then, this deck is aggro enough to consistently kill them by turn 5.

I'd estimate there were 170 at the event.
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combomaster



Joined: 31 Jul 2008
Posts: 71

PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:48 pm    Post subject: to be honest Reply with quote

To be honest id more think about droping your one off behemoth sledge for another anthem if anything.i dont know about you guys but in a token deck i think sledge you have to put at least 6 mana into it to be effective and then they might kill the creature its attached to then another 3 mana.
id rather be playing creatures in that time.
but id say -1 behemoth sledge -1 glorious anthem +2 garruk

garruk is soo good with its over run ability and the 3/3 creature factor and it allows you to keep mana open for the gilt-leaf ambush trick.
but thats my opinion i didnt go 6-2
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