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greeley
Joined: 23 Apr 2009
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 Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 9:26 am Post subject: double strike doubts |
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hello
some day happen this i dont know what happen with lifelink
if i have a rhox war monk and a rafiq of the many and declare attack with the rhox and my opponent blocks with a 2/2 creature without first or double strike
for my double strike i first strike 4 to the 2/2 and normally the lifelink triggers and i gain 4 life.
the doubt is that if the first stike kills my oponent creature before the regular damage i dont gain the life for doble strike??? and only gain 4 ??
the same way with a bloking first stike creature 2/2 i gain the double of life or i only gain the first life because i killed the oponent creature
thanks anyways |
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rdeg87
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 9:41 am Post subject: |
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The creature dies after first strike is dealt, since the creature is dead there is nowhere to assign regular damage.
So basically you gain 4 life not 8 since regular damage is not dealt.
If the creature had trample then the rest of the damage would get assigned to your opponent |
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Clariax
Joined: 16 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 9:44 am Post subject: |
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With lifelink you gain life equal to the amount of damage dealt. In the example given, the Rhox War Monk will deal 4 damage during the first combat damage step, causing lifelink to trigger and gaining you 4 life.
During the second combat damage step, however, you have a blocked Rhox War Monk (once blocked, it stays blocked unless something specifically says it's not blocked) with no blocking creatures (It was already destroyed), and no trample, so there is nothing for the War Monk to assign damage to, so no damage is dealt so lifelink does not trigger and no life is gained. |
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Blitz00
Joined: 08 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:34 am Post subject: |
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| ok what about trample? if you have trample swinging with a 3/3 with a rafiq out they block witha 1/1. ok deals first strike combat damage 2 trample over will you deal the other 3 damage? |
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DARKING
Joined: 13 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:44 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, in that second case the 3 damage will trample over. |
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SaTiVa
Joined: 09 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:45 am Post subject: |
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| Blitz00 wrote: | | ok what about trample? if you have trample swinging with a 3/3 with a rafiq out they block witha 1/1. ok deals first strike combat damage 2 trample over will you deal the other 3 damage? |
ya if it is a 3/3 double striker, trampler attacking and a 1/1 blocks during the first combat damage step u can assign in any of the 3 ways:
1 to the 1/1, 2 to the player
2 to the 1/1, 1 to the player
3 to the 1/1, 0 to the player
Then assuming this kills the 1/1 the only creature blocking the creature with trample then for the second combat damage step the only choice is to deal 3 points of damage to the defending player. |
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Blitz00
Joined: 08 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 10:26 am Post subject: |
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| seems broken. i have been playing thinking that after you assign double strike damage to a creature and it dies only the first strike damage goes to the player. |
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Hardtrack
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Blitz00 wrote: | | seems broken. i have been playing thinking that after you assign double strike damage to a creature and it dies only the first strike damage goes to the player. |
Assuming the creature also has trample, you've been playing wrong then.
If there are no blockers left, all damage from a trampling cerature gets assigned to the defending player. |
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