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What Beats both Jund Ramp and Blightning?



 
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FreeBird



Joined: 04 Aug 2007
Posts: 38

PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better decks...but in all seriousness I think the best deck in the format is currently elves which only loses to tokens, but the match got a lot better with the addition of Maelstrom Pulse.
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cdubs



Joined: 11 Sep 2004
Posts: 127

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 1:53 am    Post subject: Maybe..need to test and tweak..need some peoples advice. Reply with quote

need to test and tweak..need some peoples advice.
Advice is to add cryptics. maybe mages. cutting rangers or not. adding sower etc.
UWSolution
// Lands
3 [10E] Faerie Conclave
4 [SHM] Mystic Gate
4 [10E] Adarkar Wastes
3 [SHM] Island (4)
9 [ALA] Plains (4)

// Creatures
3 [LRW] Ajani Goldmane
2 [ALA] Ranger of Eos
3 [CNF] Vedalken Outlander
3 [LRW] Burrenton Forge-Tender
3 [MOR] Reveillark
4 [EVE] Stillmoon Cavalier
4 [10E] Paladin en-Vec
4 [EVE] Figure of Destiny

// Spells
3 [MOR] Negate
4 [CNF] Path to Exile
2 [10E] Wrath of God
2 [ALA] Elspeth Knight-Errant

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [EVE] Stillmoon Cavalier
SB: 1 [MOR] Negate
SB: 2 [10E] Wrath of God
SB: 4 [LRW] Sower of Temptation
SB: 4 [CNF] Celestial Purge
SB: 3 [10E] Pithing Needle
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Ossy



Joined: 01 May 2009
Posts: 37

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is an extra Stillmoon in sb. I think that Cryptics are necessary, so I'd think -3 Negate -1 PtE, +4 Cryptics.
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kaiijy



Joined: 29 Mar 2009
Posts: 7

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GW Tokens

beats jund on speed and beats blightning by discarding a Wilt-Leaf Liege for their Blightning :>
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asamodious



Joined: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 362

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kaiijy wrote:
GW Tokens

beats jund on speed and beats blightning by discarding a Wilt-Leaf Liege for their Blightning :>


i will personally LOL out of my chair if someone casts blightning vs u playing GW tokens at regionals..i mean it could happen. But at that point the whole room will stand up, point at him, and laugh uncontrollably.
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kaiijy



Joined: 29 Mar 2009
Posts: 7

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

game 1: everything can happen Very Happy
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SniperMayer



Joined: 31 Jan 2008
Posts: 290

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure that you are looking for a SCISSORS!!! Very Happy
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ynnus



Joined: 26 Dec 2006
Posts: 101

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think 5cc still beats them both.
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Triggers



Joined: 08 Sep 2008
Posts: 112

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think that GW Tokens is a good deck against Jund ramp..

I know my list runs like 6+ maindeck sweepers.. with 2-3 more in the side. As BW tokens is going to be running rampant with ZP out =x
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kaiijy



Joined: 29 Mar 2009
Posts: 7

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And you think that playing so many boardsweepers is the way to beat a token deck?

Do you think that a BW/RW/GW Tokens player will play all their threats in the early game just to get your fallout? You have a week early game, that's for any control/ramp deck. Including that your mass sweepers are, probably, Volcanic Fallout and Lavalanche. You'll play those just to wait for a Siege-Gang/Cloudgoat on the opponent's next turn, simple. Specially because Jund doesn't look like a deck that draws a lot of cards, right? So you'll spend every turn praying for a board sweeper to come. Great tactic!
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