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dems00
Joined: 31 Mar 2009
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| The trick is to only ask for league play on irc. 90% of the mwsplay.net is brazillian 12 year olds. Not to make a racist comment, but from what I gather, a lot of them are looking for games to play for free online. Some of them pick up magic, others play random MMORPG's. Not everyone plays as competitively as we do. Not everyone learns all the rules before jumping into play with someone who's competitive. Be more strict with the games you find. I usually post for tier 1 decks or players ONLY, then make my starting message, if your deck is bad im d/cing. I usually only get good games. |
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sup3rm4n
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:34 am Post subject: |
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| Spyx wrote: | | Or when they counter your demigod of revenge without saying anything. Then quit when you put it into play. |
They don't need to say anything. It's your responsibility to put your triggered abilities on the stack and pass priority. And if they counter it and you didn't put the trigger on the stack, the game will get backed up to the point where you forgot the trigger and proceed from there.
Also if you do this in a premier event this offense can get upgraded to a serious penalty very quickly. |
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Kytep
Joined: 21 May 2006
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone else get the sense that "noob" in MWSPlay doesn't mean "You must be new to the game" or even "You're an idiot", but that it really means, "You just kicked my ass and I'm so threatened by you that I'm going to disconnect now in shame..."?
Or, when it's a ruling dispute: "This is how I learned to play at my kitchen table (I've never even been to a PTQ), but I'm so unsure of myself that I'm afraid that my position won't hold up to the scrutiny of asking a judge or even reading the rules, so I'm going to disconnect now in shame before I find out that I'm wrong..."
Or is it just me? 
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EMA
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
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Funny things also happen with seal of fires and tarmogoyfs, (or any instant burn when there is no instant in graveyards), when u point out that their spell is actually going to the grave b4 resolving then they suggest u should learn rules, call u noob and quit lol
Not to mention the guy that was trying to convince me that on your discard step you can pay 1 life for each card beyond the 7th to keep it... |
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MikeL123
Joined: 27 May 2007
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EMA, that's poorly worded. For instants, like a Lightning Bolt for example, the spell "resolves" when it is on top of the stack and both players pass priority. It deals 3 damage to the Tarmogoyf, and then since you're done carrying out the instructions on the card, it goes to the graveyard. So in fact, the card does NOT go to the graveyard before it resolves.
What instead happens is the Tarmogoyf takes 3 damage, but creatures can only die due to state-based effects when a player would have priority. And no player has priority mid-spell-resolution. Creatures don't die due to damage DURING a spell's resolution.
http://www.crystalkeep.com/magic/rules/summaries/indexes/rule-general-413.php#413
http://www.crystalkeep.com/magic/rules/summaries/indexes/rule-general-420.php#420 |
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DoomBring3r
Joined: 30 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:16 am Post subject: |
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| EMA wrote: | Funny things also happen with seal of fires and tarmogoyfs, (or any instant burn when there is no instant in graveyards), when u point out that their spell is actually going to the grave b4 resolving then they suggest u should learn rules, call u noob and quit lol
Not to mention the guy that was trying to convince me that on your discard step you can pay 1 life for each card beyond the 7th to keep it... |
That doesn't happen only at MWS, i saw a dude using Nameless Inversion on a Goyf when a land was in a GY. And then there was much crying after the judge explained the rules.
Ugh there's so much crap going on mwsplay that i can't even recall... |
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Malakai97
Joined: 11 Aug 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Or when you counter someone's only out and they call you a lucky noob, then quit before you can reveal the three other counters you are holding plus the removal you have for the thing they played? |
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IberianWolf
Joined: 17 Nov 2006
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or when you play two phyrexian dreadnoughts off of illusionary mask and your opponent insists you have to stifle even after you show the rulings. then, you quit after explaining you won't play with stubborn jerks, and he starts stalking you around mws. you kick his ass some more and he still acts superior. lol.
or when people disconnect when you nullify his big threat. frustration does that... but worse is when someone wins and says "no" to "g2?". As if their victory meant there was a huge gap in skill (which usually isn't).
there are a lot of idiots on mws. usually I just stay away from brazilians (I don't like their attitude towards the internet... they're almost all noobs at everything! not meaning to insult anyone here, but surely you have noticed...), spanish people and other non-english speaking/"player" dudes.
but anyway, there's also cool dudes on mws, I've had some nice conversations |
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dwarfas
Joined: 26 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:37 am Post subject: |
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| you are all gay. |
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Bantos86
Joined: 28 Nov 2009
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| dwarfas wrote: | | you are all gay. |
NO U
| Quote: | EMA, that's poorly worded. For instants, like a Lightning Bolt for example, the spell "resolves" when it is on top of the stack and both players pass priority. It deals 3 damage to the Tarmogoyf, and then since you're done carrying out the instructions on the card, it goes to the graveyard. So in fact, the card does NOT go to the graveyard before it resolves.
What instead happens is the Tarmogoyf takes 3 damage, but creatures can only die due to state-based effects when a player would have priority. And no player has priority mid-spell-resolution. Creatures don't die due to damage DURING a spell's resolution. |
Mike, if you had actually read EMA's post, he mentioned Seal of Fire specifically. Seal of Fire does indeed go to the graveyard before its ability resolves (since that's the cost to activate its ability), and will indeed pump Tarmogoyf and prevent its death, providing it took no other damage in the turn and there was something else in the graveyards besides non-tribal enchantments. |
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Acid_Christ
Joined: 28 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Bantos86 wrote: | | dwarfas wrote: | | you are all gay. |
NO U
| Quote: | EMA, that's poorly worded. For instants, like a Lightning Bolt for example, the spell "resolves" when it is on top of the stack and both players pass priority. It deals 3 damage to the Tarmogoyf, and then since you're done carrying out the instructions on the card, it goes to the graveyard. So in fact, the card does NOT go to the graveyard before it resolves.
What instead happens is the Tarmogoyf takes 3 damage, but creatures can only die due to state-based effects when a player would have priority. And no player has priority mid-spell-resolution. Creatures don't die due to damage DURING a spell's resolution. |
Mike, if you had actually read EMA's post, he mentioned Seal of Fire specifically. Seal of Fire does indeed go to the graveyard before its ability resolves (since that's the cost to activate its ability), and will indeed pump Tarmogoyf and prevent its death, providing it took no other damage in the turn and there was something else in the graveyards besides non-tribal enchantments. |
If YOU would have actually read EMA's post, you would see after mentioning Seal of Fire he also goes on with, ".. (or any instant burn when there is no instant in graveyards)". |
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Acid_Christ
Joined: 28 Aug 2004
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| DoomBring3r wrote: | | EMA wrote: | Funny things also happen with seal of fires and tarmogoyfs, (or any instant burn when there is no instant in graveyards), when u point out that their spell is actually going to the grave b4 resolving then they suggest u should learn rules, call u noob and quit lol
Not to mention the guy that was trying to convince me that on your discard step you can pay 1 life for each card beyond the 7th to keep it... |
That doesn't happen only at MWS, i saw a dude using Nameless Inversion on a Goyf when a land was in a GY. And then there was much crying after the judge explained the rules.
Ugh there's so much crap going on mwsplay that i can't even recall... |
I have actually had this happen to me at FNM (the place I was recently bitching about on another forum). The guy played the Inversion and said the Tarmo dies. I said no and got the judge, and then the judge told me I was wrong. I argued my point and eventually other people heard and agreed I was right and then the judge took back his call and said I was right. They both knew the rules. The player was just trying to get a win from a lose/lose situation and the judge was his friend. |
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wdeister
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| I had a guy scream at me one time when I was playing a game right after M10 was fully spoiled like a day or two before the prerelease. It was a T2 game, he drops turn 1 land Hierarch go. Turn 1 me land go. Turn 2 him Windswept Heath search plains play Rhox War Monk. Me "ummm this is a Type 2 game." "I know." "Windswept Heath isn't standard legal." "Yes they are, they're in m10" "No they're not. These are in M10" *shows Drowned Catacomb* Him - "You're a noob. Bye noob!" The part i wish I knew was how many games did it take him to realize that he was wrong and every other person or almost every other person he played was right including myself. And how many guys before me did he play too that told him the same thing. LOL |
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SugarShark
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| Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| dwarfas is right |
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MikeL123
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| Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| EDIT: full thread didn't load, sorry. Acidchrist beat me to it. |
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